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Nov 1, 2023 09:15:07   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Is everyone enrolled in school an "Honor Student"? If I read about a kid who was killed, and he was an "Honor Student." In today's paper, an "Honor Student" (16) who is a gang member was sentenced to seven years in prison for the brutal beating of another student in school.

From the newspaper - "...in retaliation for a shooting just prior to the May 3 attack between a member of the Apes subset of the Bloods street gang and a member of Sex, Money, Murder, another subset of the Bloods."

It's a shame that the Bloods can't get along. Why can't all gang members be friends? 🤣

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Nov 1, 2023 09:17:56   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Grades are just one aspect of a person.

Knowing the other information, I don't know how they can call him an "Honor Student.

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Nov 1, 2023 09:31:55   #
Shellback Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
 
Longshadow wrote:
Grades are just one aspect of a person.

Knowing the other information, I don't know how they can call him an "Honor Student.


The same way they give every participant a trophy so no one feels bad or left out - or never fail a student and make him do the class over for not doing any of the work or turning in homework - or discipline students for violations of school rules like fighting, bullying, smoking in the restrooms, etc… etc… etc… Have to make the little brats feel good with all the warm and fuzzy treatment...

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Nov 1, 2023 09:34:51   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Shellback wrote:
The same way they give every participant a trophy so no one feels bad or left out - or never fail a student and make him do the class over for not doing any of the work or turning in homework - or discipline students for violations of school rules like fighting, bullying, smoking in the restrooms, etc… etc… etc… Have to make the little brats feel good with all the warm and fuzzy treatment...


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Nov 1, 2023 10:44:50   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Shellback wrote:
The same way they give every participant a trophy so no one feels bad or left out - or never fail a student and make him do the class over for not doing any of the work or turning in homework - or discipline students for violations of school rules like fighting, bullying, smoking in the restrooms, etc… etc… etc… Have to make the little brats feel good with all the warm and fuzzy treatment...


Your comments are glittering generalizations. It's not all that way! I have three grandchildren who would make any parent/grandparent proud. Please don't indite the entire generation.
Mark

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Nov 1, 2023 12:06:28   #
Guyserman Loc: Benton, AR
 
markngolf wrote:
Your comments are glittering generalizations. It's not all that way! I have three grandchildren who would make any parent/grandparent proud. Please don't indite the entire generation.
Mark

I took his post as an inditement of school officials and adults.

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Nov 1, 2023 12:09:11   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Guyserman wrote:
I took his post as an inditement of school officials and adults.


Perhaps, but it was still a glittering generality.
Mark

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Nov 1, 2023 12:09:32   #
Shellback Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
 
Guyserman wrote:
I took his post as an inditement of school officials and adults.


Actually the school officials are doing what the school board directs them to do- and those are generally voted in positions by the parents…

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Nov 1, 2023 12:17:02   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
I took it as what the reporter stated from info he had.

And the statement regarding "...warm and fuzzy" is in fact predominant in society,
even though we didn't raise our kids that way. To which one of my kids went out of his way one time to thank us for the way we raised them.

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Nov 1, 2023 12:45:26   #
riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Is everyone enrolled in school an "Honor Student"? If I read about a kid who was killed, and he was an "Honor Student." In today's paper, an "Honor Student" (16) who is a gang member was sentenced to seven years in prison for the brutal beating of another student in school.

From the newspaper - "...in retaliation for a shooting just prior to the May 3 attack between a member of the Apes subset of the Bloods street gang and a member of Sex, Money, Murder, another subset of the Bloods."

It's a shame that the Bloods can't get along. Why can't all gang members be friends? 🤣
Is everyone enrolled in school an "Honor Stud... (show quote)


Jerry, be careful how you speak Ok. You said 'IF I READ about ...' You said IF. Now are you relating a REAL thing that actually happened ?
bruce

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Nov 1, 2023 13:19:46   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
In some cities reading and math at or near grade level would make you an honor roll student. The education system is failing to meet their most basic role. Not every district, but many are abject failures. They do however have the capability to indoctrinate rather than teach basic R,W&A.

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Nov 1, 2023 13:31:43   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
riderxlx wrote:
Jerry, be careful how you speak Ok. You said 'IF I READ about ...' You said IF. Now are you relating a REAL thing that actually happened ?
bruce


Actually, that's what I meant. If I read about a car accident, if I read about a house fire, if I read about...whatever. Students are usually described as honor students. Yes, this was a real incident involving a so-called "Honor Student."

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Nov 1, 2023 13:32:24   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
clint f. wrote:
In some cities reading and math at or near grade level would make you an honor roll student. The education system is failing to meet their most basic role. Not every district, but many are abject failures. They do however have the capability to indoctrinate rather than teach basic R,W&A.


Reading, mathematics and writing scores on standardized test have little to do with grades. There may be a correlation between the two, but standardized tests do not determine honor rolls in schools. Grades determine honor roll qualifications.
Mark

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Nov 1, 2023 13:35:18   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
markngolf wrote:
Reading, mathematics and writing scores on standardized test have little to do with grades. There may be a correlation between the two, but standardized tests do not determine honor rolls in schools. Grades determine honor roll qualifications.
Mark


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Nov 1, 2023 13:35:53   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
clint f. wrote:
In some cities reading and math at or near grade level would make you an honor roll student. The education system is failing to meet their most basic role. Not every district, but many are abject failures. They do however have the capability to indoctrinate rather than teach basic R,W&A.


If parents had as much control over the medical industry as they do over education, funeral homes would be doing a booming business.

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