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Oct 23, 2023 15:46:40   #
bdk Loc: Sanibel Fl.
 
sometimes your local school has continuing
education which includes Ps or LR.... Thats how I got my basics.

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Oct 24, 2023 05:05:05   #
Mduffy910 Loc: Michigan
 
kcj wrote:
Where can you learn these two programs without going to a collage. Ours does not have a good program at all. Also I use a Mac. Thank you


I have found fantastic courses, really inexpensive during their sales, which they have often, at Udemy.com. I've really enjoyed their classes, the extra material they give you, and the instructors. The other thing is you attend, or take the class segments, at your leisure, there is no time limit or deadline, except what is self imposed. Give it a try, the price is right, and they have many photographic classes!

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Oct 24, 2023 06:09:23   #
Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara
 
bsprague wrote:
The Help menu in Classic has a link to the Adobe tutorials John mentioned.
https://creativecloud.adobe.com/cc/learn/app/lightroom-classic?locale=en

In addition there are a half dozen or more educators that have made themselves famous in the photography world. My favorite is Matt Kloskowski. He has courses you can buy. His teaching style if very good.

Others include Victoria Brampton (the Lightroom Queen). She has a good book. Anthony Morganti has a very good YouTube channel that is free but I don't think he has a current introductory tutorial.

Terry White has the title of "Adobe Worldwide Evangelist". His work is always good. He has a 1 hour introduction to Lightroom Classic here: https://www.youtube.com/live/sNcgyINrgmc?si=6JTCHxdp-hwkylAP

Theresa Jackson has a course on LinkedIn Learning. The first month is free and a lot of Public Libraries provide free access.

I learned Lightroom from Julieanne Kost when it was version 4! She has a wonderful resource page here: https://jkost.com/blog/lightroom-training-videos
The Help menu in Classic has a link to the Adobe t... (show quote)


All great instructors but you might want to rethink that no college as many city colleges offer classes on both at a reasonable price like zero and online. Santa Barbara City College does through its college of extended learning (what was adult Ed). They are taught by two extremely qualified instructors both of whom taught at Brooks Institute which when Ernie Brooks ran it was one of the top photography schools in the world. You may have similar classes you can attend.

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Oct 24, 2023 12:45:43   #
Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY
 
I cling to the notion that Lightroom (Classic now) was originally intended to add the database called Library to Photoshop hence the original name Photoshop Classic. But then, I believe, they added the raw processing and then the popularity to LrC took off with a much better human interface. However, Adobe couldn’t (and maybe shouldn’t) resist the enormous mobile device market. And the rest is history.

(Rant) Alas Adobe Marketing was inept at choosing names. Lightroom itself had a meaning in the photo publication world although it never made the dictionary. The biggest misstep was using the name Import for the act of adding data (photos) to the Catalog (database) even though it is correct in the database design world. Import does NOT move your files from the camera into LrC requiring Export to use them elsewhere. What it actually does is collect data and creates a catalog entry for each image. There is no, nada or zip copy of the file only the path to the file. So it wouldn’t hurt to understand the basics of the catalog operation. Some people say the don’t use databases. So how do they navigate the computer without using Finder/Explorer? (End of Rant)

Returning to the original post I suggest starting with LrC because although ARC is the same software in both it is a managed easier in LrC. Some other essential edits, notably removal of distracting objects, are easily performed with Ps. Also Ps adds operations that have nothing to do with images which adds to the bewildering complexity of Ps.

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Oct 24, 2023 13:57:19   #
JimGray Loc: Albuquerque, New Mexico
 
Jack 13088 wrote:
I cling to the notion that Lightroom (Classic now)
(Rant) Alas Adobe Marketing was inept at choosing names. Lightroom itself had a meaning in the photo publication world although it never made the dictionary. The biggest misstep was using the name Import for the act of adding data (photos) to the Catalog (database) even though it is correct in the database design world. Import does NOT move your files from the camera into LrC requiring Export to use them elsewhere. What it actually does is collect data and creates a catalog entry for each image. There is no, nada or zip copy of the file only the path to the file. So it wouldn’t hurt to understand the basics of the catalog operation. Some people say the don’t use databases. So how do they navigate the computer without using Finder/Explorer? (End of Rant)

Also Ps adds operations that have nothing to do with images which adds to the bewildering complexity of Ps.
I cling to the notion that Lightroom (Classic now)... (show quote)



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Oct 24, 2023 16:19:31   #
wapiti Loc: round rock, texas
 
bsprague wrote:
The Help menu in Classic has a link to the Adobe tutorials John mentioned.
https://creativecloud.adobe.com/cc/learn/app/lightroom-classic?locale=en

In addition there are a half dozen or more educators that have made themselves famous in the photography world. My favorite is Matt Kloskowski. He has courses you can buy. His teaching style if very good.

Others include Victoria Brampton (the Lightroom Queen). She has a good book. Anthony Morganti has a very good YouTube channel that is free but I don't think he has a current introductory tutorial.

Terry White has the title of "Adobe Worldwide Evangelist". His work is always good. He has a 1 hour introduction to Lightroom Classic here: https://www.youtube.com/live/sNcgyINrgmc?si=6JTCHxdp-hwkylAP

Theresa Jackson has a course on LinkedIn Learning. The first month is free and a lot of Public Libraries provide free access.

I learned Lightroom from Julieanne Kost when it was version 4! She has a wonderful resource page here: https://jkost.com/blog/lightroom-training-videos
The Help menu in Classic has a link to the Adobe t... (show quote)



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Oct 24, 2023 16:51:05   #
Hasslla
 
I just received notice of Photoshop training in an email today:

https://davecross.krtra.com/c/VkNiacIhoeZa/J46MD

This may be of interest to you.

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Oct 28, 2023 06:25:05   #
Harry02 Loc: Gardena, CA
 
My point (that I didn't make!) was that he has options Free ones. Without log ons nor subs.
Being a noob question I wanted to point him to multiple noob varied lessons.
AND as he learns more his questions will be specific issue based.
We've all been noobs, guide him gently into that good abyss.

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