Sony Stacked Sensors are not the Old (2012) BSI Sensors
May 14, 2023 15:52:39 #
tcthome
Loc: NJ
JD750 wrote:
Right easy to get confused. My Om-1 utilizes a stacked CMOS sensor so I had to know what that was before I bought it. The stacked technology also enables greater data rate transfer from the sensor which translates to improves continuous shooting frame rates.
The data transfer rates transfer (more fps & possibly a bigger buffer) is what I got out of it when Sony introduce them into their cameras.
May 14, 2023 15:53:15 #
May 14, 2023 16:17:09 #
larryepage wrote:
Always remember, with UHH you get: They know how to read. And they know the difference between primary and secondary sources. So they can get it right for themselves. There's never any misleading involved.
(1) Expert Advice
(2) Strong conflicting opinions
(3) Completely wrong answers
It's up to the reader to sort them all out.
May 16, 2023 20:51:22 #
I always hated both terms "stacked" and "back side illuminated" as they are misleading and confusing. All microchips are "stacked" technically and the "back side" is really the front side if we consider the lens the front of the camera. They need to pick different terms for each. The benefits of each are very clear once you look at the graphics.
May 16, 2023 21:49:28 #
bikinkawboy
Loc: north central Missouri
JD750, I read the article, great stuff that really helps explain how things work. Thanks for the link!
May 16, 2023 23:02:10 #
bikinkawboy wrote:
your welcome I am glad it was useful!JD750, I read the article, great stuff that really helps explain how things work. Thanks for the link!
Oct 21, 2023 16:34:58 #
Re: stacked sensors: It seems to me that different views should not lead to personal confrontations. Luckily for me I do not know enough to get involved in disputes about sensor technology. Regards to all. Davidb1879.
Oct 21, 2023 18:11:38 #
larryepage wrote:
This has been a quite illuminating [a most astute pun !!!] discussion and speaks volumes about the validity and reliability of the information available here. The full extent of misinformation is shocking.
This has been a quite illuminating [a most astute pun !!!] discussion and speaks volumes about the validity and reliability of the information available here. The full extent of misinformation is shocking.
Shocking ? Nope. Quite the opposite. Its all very well estabished loooongtime UHH Sacred Tradition. Stodgy old tradition cannot be called "shocking" ... no matter how badly it sux, its NOT shocking. Which is WHY and HOW it sux so severely.
Thaz why I frequently post reminders that this is an *entertainment* site, not to be confused with a Help and Information site.
Entertainment isnt always all laffs and feeling good stuff. Often its tragic. Acoarst the UHH Clown Car cannot possibly hold a candle to Shakespears tragedy, but it mimics his mix of tragedy and comic relief. Alas, poor Yurick ....
*Tragically* Englishmen knew nothing of buttered popcorn in the Elizebethan era.
Oct 21, 2023 18:50:14 #
I have enjoyed reading this thread and how it has progressed (or perhaps digressed?).
For a look back in time, a place you would just love to visit with a time machine and to take a modern camera and laptop and to walk around a bit taking pictures of it, and to download those photos onto the laptop and to show it to the people on this project: ENIAC, 1947, Penn State campus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC
The Wikipedia entry is well written and describes this beast in a way anyone can understand. A modern camera and laptop is so far beyond the capability of those 1947 professors and engineers that they wouldn't even know how to begin to understand how they worked!
Here is an example of things said about this monster:
By the end of its operation in 1956, ENIAC contained 18,000 vacuum tubes, 7,200 crystal diodes, 1,500 relays, 70,000 resistors, 10,000 capacitors, and approximately 5,000,000 hand-soldered joints. It weighed more than 30 short tons (27 t), was roughly 8 ft (2 m) tall, 3 ft (1 m) deep, and 100 ft (30 m) long, occupied 300 sq ft (28 m2) and consumed 150 kW of electricity.
or this quote:
Several tubes burned out almost every day, leaving ENIAC nonfunctional about half the time. Special high-reliability tubes were not available until 1948. Most of these failures, however, occurred during the warm-up and cool-down periods, when the tube heaters and cathodes were under the most thermal stress. Engineers reduced ENIAC's tube failures to the more acceptable rate of one tube every two days. According to an interview in 1989 with Eckert, "We had a tube fail about every two days and we could locate the problem within 15 minutes."[32] In 1954, the longest continuous period of operation without a failure was 116 hours—close to five days.
In looking at the power consumption, I took a look at my PG&E electric bill here in the Bay Area of California. During Peak hours usage, I am charged $0.51151 per KWhr. To operate ENIAC during today's peak hours, it would cost $76,726 per hour to operate. It would take a lot of solar panels to handle that load!
And for repair, it brings back memories of my childhood when the TV would stop working, and my father would take all the tubes out and take them down to the nearest drugstore where they had a tube tester. He would proceed to test each tube, buy a new one of the type that failed, and back home we would go. Put all the tubes back in, turn it on, and we were good to go again, and I could watch Popeye on the one strong station we could get, KDKA in Pittsburgh, plus 3 or 4 fuzzy channels. Life was different! And come to think about it, we were doing this during the years ENIAC was in use.
For a look back in time, a place you would just love to visit with a time machine and to take a modern camera and laptop and to walk around a bit taking pictures of it, and to download those photos onto the laptop and to show it to the people on this project: ENIAC, 1947, Penn State campus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC
The Wikipedia entry is well written and describes this beast in a way anyone can understand. A modern camera and laptop is so far beyond the capability of those 1947 professors and engineers that they wouldn't even know how to begin to understand how they worked!
Here is an example of things said about this monster:
By the end of its operation in 1956, ENIAC contained 18,000 vacuum tubes, 7,200 crystal diodes, 1,500 relays, 70,000 resistors, 10,000 capacitors, and approximately 5,000,000 hand-soldered joints. It weighed more than 30 short tons (27 t), was roughly 8 ft (2 m) tall, 3 ft (1 m) deep, and 100 ft (30 m) long, occupied 300 sq ft (28 m2) and consumed 150 kW of electricity.
or this quote:
Several tubes burned out almost every day, leaving ENIAC nonfunctional about half the time. Special high-reliability tubes were not available until 1948. Most of these failures, however, occurred during the warm-up and cool-down periods, when the tube heaters and cathodes were under the most thermal stress. Engineers reduced ENIAC's tube failures to the more acceptable rate of one tube every two days. According to an interview in 1989 with Eckert, "We had a tube fail about every two days and we could locate the problem within 15 minutes."[32] In 1954, the longest continuous period of operation without a failure was 116 hours—close to five days.
In looking at the power consumption, I took a look at my PG&E electric bill here in the Bay Area of California. During Peak hours usage, I am charged $0.51151 per KWhr. To operate ENIAC during today's peak hours, it would cost $76,726 per hour to operate. It would take a lot of solar panels to handle that load!
And for repair, it brings back memories of my childhood when the TV would stop working, and my father would take all the tubes out and take them down to the nearest drugstore where they had a tube tester. He would proceed to test each tube, buy a new one of the type that failed, and back home we would go. Put all the tubes back in, turn it on, and we were good to go again, and I could watch Popeye on the one strong station we could get, KDKA in Pittsburgh, plus 3 or 4 fuzzy channels. Life was different! And come to think about it, we were doing this during the years ENIAC was in use.
Oct 22, 2023 06:53:51 #
Oct 22, 2023 13:24:41 #
BE KIND wrote:
Everyone: BE KIND...it costs nothing. Try it, you might like it!
Actually it really is rather costly. It can reduce advertizing revenue. Ego mania and stubborn stoopidity is what keeps the servers humming.
Fortunately, your foolish childish attitude will never take hold and so the lights will not dim. Youll hafta just face it that entertainment is a rather dirty bidnez.
Oct 23, 2023 07:28:22 #
User ID wrote:
Actually it really is rather costly. It can reduce advertizing revenue. Ego mania and stubborn stoopidity is what keeps the servers humming.
Fortunately, your foolish childish attitude will never take hold and so the lights will not dim. Youll hafta just face it that entertainment is a rather dirty bidnez.
Fortunately, your foolish childish attitude will never take hold and so the lights will not dim. Youll hafta just face it that entertainment is a rather dirty bidnez.
Childish?? Really?... after posting your usual silly images and accompanying childish grammar??
BE KIND...it won't cost YOU a thing. Treat people the way you would prefer to be treated. Try it, you might like it. You'll be a much happier person!
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