A Humble Suggestion (Page 3): Ah! The wife always knows better! (My wife has no interest in my photos. Re travel pix, for example, she says “why do I need to look at pictures when I...

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BebuLamar wrote:

I only enjoy my own images, good or bad. I don't think anyone would be interested in my images (just like I am not interested in others) and thus I never show to anyone. The only ones got shown to others were the ones I took but my wife told me to give to her so she can show to others.

Ah! The wife always knows better!

(My wife has no interest in my photos. Re travel pix, for example, she says “why do I need to look at pictures when I have the memories of the originals”?)

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

MosheR wrote:

I hope this message finds everyone here well. I am a bit hesitant to post this, but something has been bothering me for some time, and I decided I had to get it off my chest. I am writing to express my deep frustration and disappointment with some of the members of this forum, specifically the disturbing trend of users who actively participate in discussions about equipment, techniques, and the intricacies of photography, but fail to share their actual work. They talk about GAS attacks, spend thousands of dollars they often claim they don’t have, on equipment they then don’t use. At least they don’t show us that they use it. As far as I can tell, they don’t post to any other forums either.

Photography is an art form meant to capture and convey moments, emotions, and stories. It is an act of creation, a way to connect and communicate with the world and with fellow photographers. However, a significant portion of our users seems to have lost sight of this fundamental aspect. Instead, they engage in endless debates about the esoteric details of lenses, shutter speeds, sensor sizes, file formats, and gear-related topics.

It is truly disheartening to witness such dedication to these technical aspects without a corresponding commitment to sharing the fruits of their labor – their photographs. Discussion about equipment and techniques is undoubtedly valuable, but they should be in service of the primary objective of photography: capturing and sharing images that inspire and evoke emotion.

As Theodore Roosevelt once said:
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

In the context of photography forums, the "man in the arena" should be the individual who actively captures moments, share his/her work, and invite constructive criticism. He is the one who truly contributes to the growth of the photography community. It's time for those who hide behind technical jargon to join the ranks of those who dare to share their artistic creations.
I urge all of us prioritize the sharing of photographs alongside technical discussions. By doing so, we can foster a more vibrant and inspiring environment for photographers at all levels of expertise.

I hope this message finds everyone here well. I am... (show quote)

I have posted plenty of photos.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Retired CPO wrote:

When I first came to UHH I thought it was a photo ... (show quote)

Well, The Gallery is for sharing photos.
It seems to work well for those who want to share theirs.

Bubbee Loc: Aventura, Florida

Guilty as charged, but my excuse is privacy! My present subject is my darling 2year old Great-Grandson and I have been doing monthly shoots since his birth and sharing mainly with Family. His parents request no posting on Facebook or such. I edit on PSE and print several on my Epson 8600. I had posted originally before realizing my mistake.
I'm still an amateur with an amazing Z50 and D7100 and SB800 and. 500 flashes and I love the advice and comments, and especially your amazing narratives and photos.

Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV

Longshadow wrote:

Well, The Gallery is for sharing photos.
It seems to work well for those who want to share theirs.

Well, I guess that I'll just keep at it then!!

Bushpilot Loc: Minnesota

MosheR wrote:

I hope this message finds everyone here well. I am a bit hesitant to post this, but something has been bothering me for some time, and I decided I had to get it off my chest. I am writing to express my deep frustration and disappointment with some of the members of this forum, specifically the disturbing trend of users who actively participate in discussions about equipment, techniques, and the intricacies of photography, but fail to share their actual work. They talk about GAS attacks, spend thousands of dollars they often claim they don’t have, on equipment they then don’t use. At least they don’t show us that they use it. As far as I can tell, they don’t post to any other forums either.

Photography is an art form meant to capture and convey moments, emotions, and stories. It is an act of creation, a way to connect and communicate with the world and with fellow photographers. However, a significant portion of our users seems to have lost sight of this fundamental aspect. Instead, they engage in endless debates about the esoteric details of lenses, shutter speeds, sensor sizes, file formats, and gear-related topics.

It is truly disheartening to witness such dedication to these technical aspects without a corresponding commitment to sharing the fruits of their labor – their photographs. Discussion about equipment and techniques is undoubtedly valuable, but they should be in service of the primary objective of photography: capturing and sharing images that inspire and evoke emotion.

As Theodore Roosevelt once said:
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

In the context of photography forums, the "man in the arena" should be the individual who actively captures moments, share his/her work, and invite constructive criticism. He is the one who truly contributes to the growth of the photography community. It's time for those who hide behind technical jargon to join the ranks of those who dare to share their artistic creations.
I urge all of us prioritize the sharing of photographs alongside technical discussions. By doing so, we can foster a more vibrant and inspiring environment for photographers at all levels of expertise.

I hope this message finds everyone here well. I am... (show quote)

mffox Loc: Avon, CT

I'm with you. Thanks for speaking up, and thanks to the many many UHH'rs who do post their work and help educate others like me.

Mark

sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri

I view the UHH forum as a way of making friends from afar, for sharing, and as a place to learn from the experiences of others. I am able to travel to faraway places and read the narratives of the backstories of the images. The members represent all walks of life with areas of expertise in nearly every subject imaginable. To me, UHH is about making connections. We are social creatures and UHH is a place to gather. I enjoy sharing and helping others whenever possible. I may not be able to help others with what to do, however, I can most often share my experiences of what did not work out for me so that others need not make the same mistakes. Experimenting and DIY projects, such as finding ways to diffuse light, help keep me mentally active.

I am a member of several other forums that are on such a professional level that I find my work pale in comparison so I remain silent as I browse in awe of their imagery. Although I enjoy viewing their work, it is no place for me to have friends from afar and I would have little to contribute at their level of mastery.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

MosheR wrote:

I hope this message finds everyone here well. I am a bit hesitant to post this, but something has been bothering me for some time, and I decided I had to get it off my chest. I am writing to express my deep frustration and disappointment with some of the members of this forum, specifically the disturbing trend of users who actively participate in discussions about equipment, techniques, and the intricacies of photography, but fail to share their actual work. They talk about GAS attacks, spend thousands of dollars they often claim they don’t have, on equipment they then don’t use. At least they don’t show us that they use it. As far as I can tell, they don’t post to any other forums either.

Photography is an art form meant to capture and convey moments, emotions, and stories. It is an act of creation, a way to connect and communicate with the world and with fellow photographers. However, a significant portion of our users seems to have lost sight of this fundamental aspect. Instead, they engage in endless debates about the esoteric details of lenses, shutter speeds, sensor sizes, file formats, and gear-related topics.

It is truly disheartening to witness such dedication to these technical aspects without a corresponding commitment to sharing the fruits of their labor – their photographs. Discussion about equipment and techniques is undoubtedly valuable, but they should be in service of the primary objective of photography: capturing and sharing images that inspire and evoke emotion.

As Theodore Roosevelt once said:
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

In the context of photography forums, the "man in the arena" should be the individual who actively captures moments, share his/her work, and invite constructive criticism. He is the one who truly contributes to the growth of the photography community. It's time for those who hide behind technical jargon to join the ranks of those who dare to share their artistic creations.
I urge all of us prioritize the sharing of photographs alongside technical discussions. By doing so, we can foster a more vibrant and inspiring environment for photographers at all levels of expertise.

I hope this message finds everyone here well. I am... (show quote)

I don't know about anyone else, but copyright concerns are chief among my reservations about posting. I've been burned three times (that I know of) over the last 20 years, by others lifting my images and using them in local advertising (across country where a relative saw it), on a calendar, and in a promotional mailing for a resort. It's not the loss of revenue that concerns me so much as the ethical and fairness issues of being ripped off.

I posted quite a few images here about a year or two ago, but thought the better of making a habit of it (again) after reading horror stories on another site. The author was traveling in another country and found one of his unmistakably unique images on a billboard! The funny thing is, he would have granted permission for free use, if they had asked, but they didn't. The agency probably figured the chances of a lawsuit were slim and none, since they were half way around the world.

This is a free site. Take all free advice, mine included, with a grain of salt. It may be quite valuable, or it may be specious or irrelevant, and often, with NO apologies, off-topic. (Everything is related to everything else eventually!) Only you can separate the gold from the mud and water in the stream, or hold an interesting thought for future reference.

That said, I've posted over 24,000 times here since 2014. Most of those posts have been in the spirit of helping people answer questions or solve problems where I have known expertise or at least believe I can offer sound advice. I spent 33 years in the photo industry professionally, and ten before that as a serious hobbyist and student. There are many great contributors here with similarly broad experience to share, and they are not all regular posters of images. None of us knows it all, but collectively, there is a lot of good information and advice and insight here.

I don't question others' authenticity, or require photographic evidence of it. It is obvious over time who provides genuine advice and who spouts nonsense. It is obvious who gets into arguments on points of technical trivia that don't amount to a rabbit pellet's worth of usefulness.

Part of online learning from forums is like going to seminars at a conference. You learn to expect that 80% of what you hear is a re-run of information you've heard over and over. That's simply reinforcement. Some of that is lies, damned lies, and statistics. Some of it is obvious, and some of it, frankly, we need to hear over and over until it clicks. Of the other 20%, 5% of that 20% is pure gold we haven't seen before. 15% of the top 20% is information we can use if we choose. 80% of the top 20% is information everyone needs to know as foundational.

As I told my daughter when she was about five, you may have to step in a lot of unpleasant piles on your way to finding the magic unicorn in the woods.

The way I see it, if you want to post images, bring 'em on. If you want to talk tech, bring that on, too. There are plenty of other forum topics on this site that appeal to the thousands of folks who visit.

If I have one complaint, it's simply that lurkers need to get over their shyness and dive in. Most devices can accommodate non-typists with a speech-to-text function of some sort (judicious proofreading recommended...).

Guyserman Loc: Benton, AR

MosheR wrote:

...but fail to share their actual work. ...

You failed to share any actual work.

leftj Loc: Texas

MosheR wrote:

I hope this message finds everyone here well. I am a bit hesitant to post this, but something has been bothering me for some time, and I decided I had to get it off my chest. I am writing to express my deep frustration and disappointment with some of the members of this forum, specifically the disturbing trend of users who actively participate in discussions about equipment, techniques, and the intricacies of photography, but fail to share their actual work. They talk about GAS attacks, spend thousands of dollars they often claim they don’t have, on equipment they then don’t use. At least they don’t show us that they use it. As far as I can tell, they don’t post to any other forums either.

Photography is an art form meant to capture and convey moments, emotions, and stories. It is an act of creation, a way to connect and communicate with the world and with fellow photographers. However, a significant portion of our users seems to have lost sight of this fundamental aspect. Instead, they engage in endless debates about the esoteric details of lenses, shutter speeds, sensor sizes, file formats, and gear-related topics.

It is truly disheartening to witness such dedication to these technical aspects without a corresponding commitment to sharing the fruits of their labor – their photographs. Discussion about equipment and techniques is undoubtedly valuable, but they should be in service of the primary objective of photography: capturing and sharing images that inspire and evoke emotion.

As Theodore Roosevelt once said:
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

In the context of photography forums, the "man in the arena" should be the individual who actively captures moments, share his/her work, and invite constructive criticism. He is the one who truly contributes to the growth of the photography community. It's time for those who hide behind technical jargon to join the ranks of those who dare to share their artistic creations.
I urge all of us prioritize the sharing of photographs alongside technical discussions. By doing so, we can foster a more vibrant and inspiring environment for photographers at all levels of expertise.

I hope this message finds everyone here well. I am... (show quote)

I think you might be suffering from a dictator syndrome

joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois

MosheR wrote:

I hope this message finds everyone here well. I am a bit hesitant to post this, but something has been bothering me for some time, and I decided I had to get it off my chest. I am writing to express my deep frustration and disappointment with some of the members of this forum, specifically the disturbing trend of users who actively participate in discussions about equipment, techniques, and the intricacies of photography, but fail to share their actual work. They talk about GAS attacks, spend thousands of dollars they often claim they don’t have, on equipment they then don’t use. At least they don’t show us that they use it. As far as I can tell, they don’t post to any other forums either.

Photography is an art form meant to capture and convey moments, emotions, and stories. It is an act of creation, a way to connect and communicate with the world and with fellow photographers. However, a significant portion of our users seems to have lost sight of this fundamental aspect. Instead, they engage in endless debates about the esoteric details of lenses, shutter speeds, sensor sizes, file formats, and gear-related topics.

It is truly disheartening to witness such dedication to these technical aspects without a corresponding commitment to sharing the fruits of their labor – their photographs. Discussion about equipment and techniques is undoubtedly valuable, but they should be in service of the primary objective of photography: capturing and sharing images that inspire and evoke emotion.

As Theodore Roosevelt once said:
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

In the context of photography forums, the "man in the arena" should be the individual who actively captures moments, share his/her work, and invite constructive criticism. He is the one who truly contributes to the growth of the photography community. It's time for those who hide behind technical jargon to join the ranks of those who dare to share their artistic creations.
I urge all of us prioritize the sharing of photographs alongside technical discussions. By doing so, we can foster a more vibrant and inspiring environment for photographers at all levels of expertise.

I hope this message finds everyone here well. I am... (show quote)

It is quite simple...if you don't know their work, don't take their advice. But keep in mind, reading their posts is your choice.

Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA

MosheR wrote:

I hope this message finds everyone here well. I am a bit hesitant to post this, but something has been bothering me for some time, and I decided I had to get it off my chest. I am writing to express my deep frustration and disappointment with some of the members of this forum, specifically the disturbing trend of users who actively participate in discussions about equipment, techniques, and the intricacies of photography, but fail to share their actual work. They talk about GAS attacks, spend thousands of dollars they often claim they don’t have, on equipment they then don’t use. At least they don’t show us that they use it. As far as I can tell, they don’t post to any other forums either.

Photography is an art form meant to capture and convey moments, emotions, and stories. It is an act of creation, a way to connect and communicate with the world and with fellow photographers. However, a significant portion of our users seems to have lost sight of this fundamental aspect. Instead, they engage in endless debates about the esoteric details of lenses, shutter speeds, sensor sizes, file formats, and gear-related topics.

It is truly disheartening to witness such dedication to these technical aspects without a corresponding commitment to sharing the fruits of their labor – their photographs. Discussion about equipment and techniques is undoubtedly valuable, but they should be in service of the primary objective of photography: capturing and sharing images that inspire and evoke emotion.

As Theodore Roosevelt once said:
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

In the context of photography forums, the "man in the arena" should be the individual who actively captures moments, share his/her work, and invite constructive criticism. He is the one who truly contributes to the growth of the photography community. It's time for those who hide behind technical jargon to join the ranks of those who dare to share their artistic creations.
I urge all of us prioritize the sharing of photographs alongside technical discussions. By doing so, we can foster a more vibrant and inspiring environment for photographers at all levels of expertise.

I hope this message finds everyone here well. I am... (show quote)

There are two sides to photography -- technical and artistic. Some people are good at the technology side and their contributions should not be dismissed. Others are good on the artistic side and their posts should be enjoyed in the photo gallery. Some people are both and contribute to both sides of this discussion. I have no problem with those who offer technical advice but are not artistic contributors. I find one can learn both from having technical problems answered and from looking at work posted to see new places and views of places I will never have the opportunity to visit. Enjoy all of this forum and chill!

Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV

Guyserman wrote:

You failed to share any actual work.

You must have a bag over your head! Moshe (OP) Has shared many extraordinary posts over the last several weeks. And I don't use that word often! Take a look! I think you will be amazed. Many people on the UHH have been!

Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV

Bridges wrote:

There are two sides to photography -- technical an... (show quote)

I think that, like myself, many people have looked at the UHH as a photo sharing network. I am just beginning to appreciate that it is more than that to a lot of UHH members. But I still think that the OP has made a valid point with his post!