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Oct 19, 2023 17:45:56   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
leftyD500 wrote:
I hope this question has not been asked before, I hate facing the wrath of those people with photographic minds that remember every post ever made on UHH, but here goes. I like using a lens hood on my lenses. When using a CP filter, it is rather difficult, if not impossible to adjust that filter without taking off the lens hood, adjusting the filter, then replacing the filter. Is there a better way of doing it without taking off that hood? I realize I am not the brightest bulb on the tree, so please spare the ink in trying to prove to me how stupid I am, thanks in advance!
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YES get a rubber collapsable hood then it won't be in the way as you turn it.

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Oct 19, 2023 19:21:02   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
RonDavis wrote:
That could work....just screw mount it ON the CPL thread.


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Oct 19, 2023 19:38:08   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
As mentioned, you could modify your present hood by drilling a hole in the right place and using a Dremel tool with a rotary file to enlarge the hole as needed to allow your finger to engage the rim of the polarizer - BUT, this can only work IF the hood bayonets onto the lens.
Also, as mentioned you could thread a hood into the polarizer and just turn the filter -BUT, this will only work with a threaded polarizer and ROUND hood .....
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Oct 19, 2023 20:30:38   #
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terryMc wrote:
I just had this very problem last weekend. I have no suggestions. When I reach inside to turn the filter, my hand causes blurring and shadows and I can't see the effect. I ended up taking the hood off when I adjusted.

If your concern is simply darkening a blue sky you dont need to see/preview the effect. Just add a guide mark to the rim and point the mark toward the sun (wherever it is, in the real environment).

For reducing or enhancing reflections on a lake or pond, set the marker to either straight up or 90 degr to the side.

Acoarst for all other reflection control you still need to remove the hood. If using a zoom lens NOT at its wide end then the hood doesnt really matter anywho.

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Oct 19, 2023 20:33:33   #
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imagemeister wrote:
As mentioned, you could modify your present hood by drilling a hole in the right place and using a Dremel tool with a rotary file to enlarge the hole as needed to allow your finger to engage the rim of the polarizer - BUT, this can only work IF the hood bayonets onto the lens.
Also, as mentioned you could thread a hood into the polarizer and just turn the filter -BUT, this will only work with a threaded polarizer and ROUND hood .....
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For a wide lens this may require a significant step-up and much larger hood.

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Oct 19, 2023 20:43:50   #
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Manglesphoto wrote:
YES get a rubber collapsable hood then it won't be in the way as you turn it.

Good for longish, normal, and some mildly wide lenses. Acoarst since a typical rubber hood is unlikely to be a close match for the lens, its simpler to not use any hood at all.

I use hoods on all my lenses. In the rare instance of using a PL I simply remove the hood. Making my life pointlessly difficult is definitely not my style. YMMV.

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Oct 19, 2023 22:38:37   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
User ID wrote:
If your concern is simply darkening a blue sky you dont need to see/preview the effect. Just add a guide mark to the rim and point the mark toward the sun (wherever it is, in the real environment).

For reducing or enhancing reflections on a lake or pond, set the marker to either straight up or 90 degr to the side.

Acoarst for all other reflection control you still need to remove the hood. If using a zoom lens NOT at its wide end then the hood doesnt really matter anywho.


I was shooting cars. I have to look through the viewfinder to see what I'm photographing and to watch until the reflection disappears. My hand caused a shadow that made it hard to impossible to see the reflection.

I know how polarizers work, and I don't use them to darken skies anymore, I use Photoshop for that. What I don't know is what "acoarst" is.

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Oct 20, 2023 00:37:10   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
leftyD500 wrote:
I hope this question has not been asked before, I hate facing the wrath of those people with photographic minds that remember every post ever made on UHH, but here goes. I like using a lens hood on my lenses. When using a CP filter, it is rather difficult, if not impossible to adjust that filter without taking off the lens hood, adjusting the filter, then replacing the filter. Is there a better way of doing it without taking off that hood? I realize I am not the brightest bulb on the tree, so please spare the ink in trying to prove to me how stupid I am, thanks in advance!
I hope this question has not been asked before, I ... (show quote)


So you have run into the problem that we all run into. And it has nothing to do with whether one is "bright" or not. And some brands have made a solution for this in their larger and longer lens shades. More on that later.

From the normal shooting position, the polarizer goes on the front of the lens in a counter clockwise direction. For my technique, it is important to remember the direction of rotation of mounting. Once the polarizer is on the lens, I will put just my middle finger over the lens shade's edge and catch just the edge of the polarizer. I then use my finger to rotate the polarizer in a counter clockwise direction. This way you see the filter's effect with the camera in the shooting position you want. If you miss that point, you continue rotating the filter in the counter clockwise direction until you get the effect you want again. The reason I always do the gross setting in the counter clockwise direction is every once in a while the polarizer will not be mounted tight enough and the filter will start to loosen. Minor changes can be done in the clockwise direction. But my suggestion is to just rotate the filter ~180° in the counter clockwise direction and reset the filter to the proper setting. Otherwise one risks loosening and losing the filter due to drop damage.

Some brands, that have a big, long lens hood, actually put a small slide opening so one can put their finger through without having to try and reach in from the front of the lens shade (I actually owned one in the past). You can check and see if your brand makes a lens shade with a polarizer adjustment window built into it for the lens you have.

If you are careful enough about keeping the finger as close as possible to the surface of the lens shade, finger prints on the filter tend to not be a problem.

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Oct 20, 2023 01:06:05   #
jcboy3
 
leftyD500 wrote:
I hope this question has not been asked before, I hate facing the wrath of those people with photographic minds that remember every post ever made on UHH, but here goes. I like using a lens hood on my lenses. When using a CP filter, it is rather difficult, if not impossible to adjust that filter without taking off the lens hood, adjusting the filter, then replacing the filter. Is there a better way of doing it without taking off that hood? I realize I am not the brightest bulb on the tree, so please spare the ink in trying to prove to me how stupid I am, thanks in advance!
I hope this question has not been asked before, I ... (show quote)


I use Xume magnetic filter mounts with my CPL filters. Especially with mirrorless cameras, I find it hard to assess the effect. So I remove the filter, rotate it until I get what I want, and then put it back on.

My wider lenses have shallow lens hoods, and those can be adjusted while mounted.

Otherwise, remove the lens hood, adjust, and replace the lens hood. You can skip the lens hood if the sun doesn't hit the filter, but if the sun does it's going to flare badly.

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Oct 20, 2023 01:25:33   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
jcboy3 wrote:
I use Xume magnetic filter mounts with my CPL filters. Especially with mirrorless cameras, I find it hard to assess the effect. So I remove the filter, rotate it until I get what I want, and then put it back on.

My wider lenses have shallow lens hoods, and those can be adjusted while mounted.

Otherwise, remove the lens hood, adjust, and replace the lens hood. You can skip the lens hood if the sun doesn't hit the filter, but if the sun does it's going to flare badly.


I find that the filters with multi-coating and the newer nano finishes (and more cost due to that) tend to reduce flare to almost nothing. I have used filters with a single or even 2 or 3 coating finishes and they will almost absolutely flare (a waste of money in my opinion). This is why I always suggest one buy the filter that is the thinnest and flattest glass, the most multi-coatings (8 or more), and best nano finish. They also provide the best protection for fingerprints. I know some people cannot afford the cost. But if they can, they will not regret the extra money spent.

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Oct 20, 2023 03:46:27   #
Blueduck Loc: Maryland
 
You can use a finger cot or one of the covers people use when counting money. They are blue silicon or rubber and have little nubs on them for a no slip effect . I use one and they don't leave a mark on the filter.

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Oct 20, 2023 05:27:35   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Longshadow wrote: 'Simplest thing I found was just to remove the hood, adjust the filter, replace the hood..."

I adjust the polarizer WITHOUT the filter and then I fit the filter to the lens when satisfied with my adjustment.

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Oct 20, 2023 06:52:31   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
leftyD500 wrote:
I hope this question has not been asked before, I hate facing the wrath of those people with photographic minds that remember every post ever made on UHH, but here goes. I like using a lens hood on my lenses. When using a CP filter, it is rather difficult, if not impossible to adjust that filter without taking off the lens hood, adjusting the filter, then replacing the filter. Is there a better way of doing it without taking off that hood? I realize I am not the brightest bulb on the tree, so please spare the ink in trying to prove to me how stupid I am, thanks in advance!
I hope this question has not been asked before, I ... (show quote)


Minolta and now Sony supplies a small window on the side of some of their hoods that once slide open you can rotate the CP filter or variable ND filter using your finger.
But when using my warming filter/enhancing and CP filter combo for fall leaves, I leave the lens hood off on my Sony 24-105 mm lens.
I find most of the time I leave the lens hood off while using any enhancing type filters. It is just plain easier.
Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.



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Oct 20, 2023 07:32:15   #
Aldla Loc: Central NJ
 
Try using an old fashioned wood pencil with a rubber eraser to turn filter and not blocking view with fingers

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Oct 20, 2023 07:39:54   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
camerapapi wrote:
Longshadow wrote: 'Simplest thing I found was just to remove the hood, adjust the filter, replace the hood..."

I adjust the polarizer WITHOUT the filter and then I fit the filter to the lens when satisfied with my adjustment.

Sorry, not following.
The reference to "filter" in my statement is the "CPL filter".

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