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Oct 7, 2023 11:03:26   #
gwilliams6
 
Nortfish wrote:
Based on the collective input from all of you, I bought an 18-135 from KEH. It came yesterday and i promptly took it out and did some comparative shooting with it. I took a serious of shots using my 16-60 and 70-210.
Conclusion: 1) The relative IQ of all lenses was similar. 2) The loss of 2mm(16 vs. 18) was negligible.3) At 100% on my monitor the 18-135 at 135( effective 200) seemed a tiny bit sharper. At 18 vs 16 my kit lens did great.
Bottom line. I'm keeping the new lens since the images are close but not having to change lenses is a major win.
I think I will order the 6600 and try it out against my NEX. Thanks to all of you for your help.
Norton
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Cheers and best to you. Have a great trip .

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Oct 7, 2023 13:05:11   #
OldCADuser Loc: Irvine, CA
 
Glad we could provide you with some of our own first-hand experiences. It helps to ask those who've been there and done that before.

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Oct 7, 2023 14:32:58   #
Jagnut07 Loc: South Carolina
 
Nortfish wrote:
Hi all.

I am taking a trip next month (A river cruise in Europe) and have been trying to resolve a dilemma.

To all SONY users'

I am trying to decide the better option with the goal better IQ.

1) Trade my 2 kit lenses; 16-55 and 70-210 for an 18-135

2) Trade my NEX-6 for a A6600 and keep my current lenses.

Yes, I would like to do both, and probably will. but I am playing with a tight budget, and may have to wait.

I am aware that I am giving up a lot of reach going from 210 to 135, but my experience in Europe leads me believe I will rarely need that much. I do not want to change lenses. I am more concerned about going from 16mm(24) to 18mm (27) since there are so many landscape and architectural opportunities.


Any input from Sony users who have experience with the 135 would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
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I had a somewhat similar situation, although I already had the a6500 so it was a matter of lens choice for me. I had both kit lenses and wanted to trim down to one lens. I chose the 16 - 70mm f4 Zeiss lens. I could not be happier. It’s a compact lens so easy to carry, it’s a pretty good wide angle and the telephoto is long enough. I hardly ever needed the 200mm of my previous lens and with the quality of the 70mm Zeiss i can use the digital zoom or crop the photo later. It was the best decision I made.

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Oct 7, 2023 20:54:11   #
Nortfish Loc: Port St. Lucie, Fla
 
Jagnut07 wrote:
I had a somewhat similar situation, although I already had the a6500 so it was a matter of lens choice for me. I had both kit lenses and wanted to trim down to one lens. I chose the 16 - 70mm f4 Zeiss lens. I could not be happier. It’s a compact lens so easy to carry, it’s a pretty good wide angle and the telephoto is long enough. I hardly ever needed the 200mm of my previous lens and with the quality of the 70mm Zeiss i can use the digital zoom or crop the photo later. It was the best decision I made.
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I had a similar experience on my last trip to Europe. I took a Lumix FZ 280. It zooms from 20 to 1200mm. When I reviewed my pictures I found that the vast majority of them were under 100 mm .Many at the 20mm point. If the sensor was a little larger I would stick with it.

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Oct 9, 2023 18:29:11   #
OldCADuser Loc: Irvine, CA
 
It would seem, at least based on adverts that I've seen at Adorama and B&H Photo, that Sony is now including either the 16-50mm lens or the 18-135mm lens as part of the two basic packages that are being sold. Now don't get me wrong, the 16-50mm lens provides for a very neat and compact package but since I got my 18-135mm lens and the fact that I'm never without the 10-18mm wide-angle, my old 16-50mm has been collecting dust in a drawer somewhere.

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Oct 9, 2023 20:01:07   #
OldCADuser Loc: Irvine, CA
 
OldCADuser wrote:
It would seem, at least based on adverts that I've seen at Adorama and B&H Photo, that Sony is now including either the 16-50mm lens or the 18-135mm lens as part of the two basic packages that are being sold.


And I just got this from Sony themselves and it appears that the only 'kit lens' being sold as part of a Sony a6600 package is the 18-135mm lens:



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Oct 16, 2023 08:50:15   #
Nortfish Loc: Port St. Lucie, Fla
 
To all,

Thanks to the input from all of you , I ended up getting the A6600 from MPB, and the 18-135 from KEH. Both experiences were seamless. nothing but good things to say. Thee 6600 that was rated "Like New" really was. Not a scratch, In the original box including the original warrantee(US).I know it is no longer good but it showed that this was not a grey market product.
I must say though, the NEX is significantly lighter and smaller than the 6600. The trade off is a significantly longer battery life as well as the rest of the improvements. I am looking forward to a great trip with many good photo ops.

Thanks for all the help you all provided.

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Oct 18, 2023 01:23:08   #
gwilliams6
 
Nortfish wrote:
To all,

Thanks to the input from all of you , I ended up getting the A6600 from MPB, and the 18-135 from KEH. Both experiences were seamless. nothing but good things to say. Thee 6600 that was rated "Like New" really was. Not a scratch, In the original box including the original warrantee(US).I know it is no longer good but it showed that this was not a grey market product.
I must say though, the NEX is significantly lighter and smaller than the 6600. The trade off is a significantly longer battery life as well as the rest of the improvements. I am looking forward to a great trip with many good photo ops.

Thanks for all the help you all provided.
To all, br br Thanks to the input from all of you... (show quote)



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Dec 19, 2023 10:21:35   #
Nortfish Loc: Port St. Lucie, Fla
 
The end of the story.

I bought a Sony A6600 and an 18-135 lens.

The trip is over. I took over 500 shots in the 3 weeks I was away.

Totally happy with my choice. I only used CIZ a couple of times, only to see how it works. I found most of my shots were in the lower ranges (25-75 mm) with some longer. Mainly shots from the boat on the river while cruising.
The image quality was fine(for me). not being a professional, I'm sure my standards are a lot lower than some of yours are. I found 18mm(=ff25) to be sufficient for street and interior shots.. At times I would have liked to have a wider lens but not often enough to really bother me, I might invest in a 10-18 mm if I find a good deal on line. no biggy.

I thank all of you who contributed to my decision. All the responses were extremely valuable.

To any of you considering a river cruise, Viking is a super great line to travel with. I will give them a perfect 10.

Thanks again.

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Dec 19, 2023 11:03:41   #
rbmcdill Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
I was just looking at the Sony Alpha site this morning and saw a professional using the kit lens for most of her work. If it is sharpness that is an issue with those lenses, Topaz Sharpen does a wonderful job of addressing that issue.

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Dec 20, 2023 07:20:05   #
Nortfish Loc: Port St. Lucie, Fla
 
rbmcdill wrote:
I was just looking at the Sony Alpha site this morning and saw a professional using the kit lens for most of her work. If it is sharpness that is an issue with those lenses, Topaz Sharpen does a wonderful job of addressing that issue.


Sony kit lenses seem to have a pretty good reputation. A while ago I shot a scene with my 16-22 kit lens on my NEX-6 along with my son in law who had a Leica. They were very close. Much to my sunrise.

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Dec 20, 2023 08:56:47   #
russjc001 Loc: South Carolina
 
What is the impact of using the 18-135mm on a full frame Sony a7r?

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Dec 20, 2023 16:59:52   #
Nortfish Loc: Port St. Lucie, Fla
 
Nortfish wrote:
Sony kit lenses seem to have a pretty good reputation. A while ago I shot a scene with my 16-22 kit lens on my NEX-6 along with my son in law who had a Leica. They were very close. Much to my sunrise.


Typo- The lens I used was a 16-50 not 22. Sorry.

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Dec 20, 2023 17:10:12   #
OldCADuser Loc: Irvine, CA
 
Yes, when first went mirrorless (2013) it was with a Sony NEX-3 and it came with the 16-50mm lens. I'm now two generations past that, first with a Sony a6000 (2016) and then a Sony a6500 (2020), I've still got that 16-50mm lens. However, I've moved-on to an 18-135mm as my standard lens. I also have a 10-18mm wide-angle. Between those two lens, I'm pretty well covered for most situations, with that old 400mm 1:6.3 Tele-Astranar for when I really need to reach out there.

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Dec 20, 2023 18:15:15   #
Nortfish Loc: Port St. Lucie, Fla
 
OldCADuser wrote:
Yes, when first went mirrorless (2013) it was with a Sony NEX-3 and it came with the 16-50mm lens. I'm now two generations past that, first with a Sony a6000 (2016) and then a Sony a6500 (2020), I've still got that 16-50mm lens. However, I've moved-on to an 18-135mm as my standard lens. I also have a 10-18mm wide-angle. Between those two lens, I'm pretty well covered for most situations, with that old 400mm 1:6.3 Tele-Astranar for when I really need to reach out there.


Sounds pretty well rounded. I sold my 16-55. I now think that was a mistake. Do you use your 10-18 often?
I'm seriously considering a 1.8 35mm prime.

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