Alphabravo2020 wrote:
Pretty cool shot. It almost has a tilt-shift effect. I was also tempted to tinker with the crop and color as well. With outdoor shots like this you can usually max out the shadows and zero out the highlights since most in-camera auto exposure algorithms are heavily affected by specular glare which has no information in it.
Lightroom AI Denoise doesn't work with the JPG format apparently.
Edit: I just noticed. The plane moves perhaps 50 to 100 feet between the 3 shots and the angle between the sun and the vents and the observer is changing quite a bit. The vents are sharply curved so the reflective glare is also changing hence the optical illusion.
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Good discussion and Great PP on the pic, Wow!
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Jimmy T Sends
Howard, I did see what you were trying to get us to see. However, as others noted it looks like either camera motion or subject (plane) movement. To authenticate your observation, I cropped the plane out of the three photos and stringed them together vertically. Apart from the bolts/rivets, all three images look similar. In the second string of cropped images, I reduced the size by half on each side and tried some sharpening. All three look even more alike.
Back to the movement of the rivets, I did some calculations. I do not know the size of the radio-controlled model plane nor its speed, so I made these assumptions. Let's guess that the plane is 6 ft (2 m) long and is moving about 30 mi/hr (48 km/hr).
This speed turns out to be 528 in/s (1 340 cm/s)/. Since the shutter speed was 1/1000 s, this means the plane would have moved about 0.5 in during the picture taking
With an estimated length of 6 ft or 72 in (182 cm), yhis translates into the plane moving about 7 1/3 plane lengths per second.
To me the idea that at this speed, the streak of the rivet could be about 0.5 in (1.3 cm), makes sense. as I compared it to the total length of the plane.
If these calculations make sense, then the plane's motion could account for most of the streak on the photo, and therefore even a slight motion of the hand in panning could make the streak to be forward or backwards.
Does this make sense? --Richard
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At 100% display, this photo should take up only 25% of what the first cropped images do.
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Howard5252 wrote:
For those who did not see the difference I am talking about. Normally I would have simply dismissed this as camera movement. I could not find similar movement elsewhere on the plane, and they are in two consecutive shots in a burst. Movement one way - then the other. I understand there is a logical explanation - that is what I am looking for. What caused this?
Optical delusion, maybe ššš
It looks like a little bit of blur distorting the vents.
Howard5252 wrote:
The three photos are were taken as a quick burst and I was trying to decide which photo to select of the three to show the pilot. To do this I enlarged them and when I did so, I noticed something strange. Look at the slits (probably air vents) at the side of the engine. They appear to be reversed in the second photo. I thought it was caused by the relative speed of my panning and the speed of the aircraft but this was a hi-speed burst and only the second photo shows a problem. I know there was no magical momentary reversal and the bolts are probably the key to the answer but I am stumped as to the cause. The printing on the plane doesn't seem to have been effected. The lens is a Nikon 500mmPF mounted on a tripod.
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#3 appears to be sharpest to me, but the other photos (looking at the side vents) don't appear unusual, just a little unsharp.
Seems as if you are all trying to assign the answer to a photography phenomenon when in reality itās just as likely to be an internal combustion radial engine phenomenon simplistically categorized as harmonic vibration. I havenāt the foggiest idea how many cylinders this beauty has; nor do I know how many rpmās itās turning at this point in itsā descent; however, it is probably humming like a rotary saw and in each of the images the camera has captured evidence of engine vibration at different instances of a power stroke at a different point on different individual cylinders. The most perfect panning wonāt stop the blurring and vibration being captured at these shutter speedsā¦ of course thatās just my opinionā¦ I could be wrong.š¤”. Awesom shots, by the wayššš!
Just my . 25 cents worth -
I have observed in MY use of bursting (being more unsteady than when I was younger) upon pressing the shutter button to start the burst, some camera motion is introduced.
This usually calms down by the 3rd or 4th exposure and one of those two will be my sharpest.
May not be the case here, but when the camera motion changes direction in that short amount of time and then is so much less on the third exposure, it makes me suspicious that it may be caused by the same thing I observe in my own efforts.
Hadn't seen anyone bring up this possibility, so I thought I'd throw it into the mix.
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