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Sep 29, 2023 15:47:38   #
John H. Loc: Central Washington State
 
Darn. You are going to miss out on several photogenic opportunities.

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Sep 29, 2023 16:04:31   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
Does anyone remember the 'Cash for Clunkers'? If you do then you may also remember the 'Corn for Fuel' taxpayer-supported program. And...let's never forget the great solar panel taxpayer funding of Solyndra that went belly-up shortly after getting $570,000,000 in a taxpayer loan which was never repaid (ever wonder where all that money went?).

How can people vote for politicians who abuse the public trust to repay campaign donor cronies, Solyndra being a prime example.

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Sep 29, 2023 16:53:39   #
Haenzel Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands
 
lightyear wrote:
The environmental crazies do not recognize or consider the substantial risk of large lithium rechargeable batteries, demonstrated by the recent lithium battery fire on the new cars being shipped from Europe to the USA : ship and automobiles all lost. The fire last night at the lithium battery charging facility in one of the former Russian countries is more evidence. We should never risk our children to satisfy their nonsensical programs.


Do you have any equipment in your house powered by lithium ion cells? Small domestic appliances powered by lithium ion cells often do not have a bms (battery management system) in order to safely charge the cells, possibly leading to overcharging and fire. This is a far bigger threat to children than an EV, which does have a bms.

Also: https://www.maritimejournal.com/industry-news/fire-and-myth-exploring-ev-battery-dangers-in-shipping/1487736.article

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Sep 29, 2023 21:19:21   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
Haenzel wrote:
You guys have a long way to go

This bus (an extended version) in the video is only a tiny bit heavier than your type D schoolbus. Range is 450 !!! km. Charging at 600 kW for 10 minutes gives them 80 km range. 53 Seats and 90 standing places, wifi usb-charging. No mirrors but cameras for better view in the dark...I think it's a good option, but...you need to have the infrastructure of course...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOsB8Xw8huI
You guys have a long way to go img src="https://s... (show quote)


As a school bus driver for 17 years, I can confidently say that no school disctrict will allow students to be standing on the bus while in motion. One of our hardest jobs was keeping them in their seats! The liability issues in case of an accident are horrendous. During my driving career, I was involved in a couple of accidents, and even with all the students seated, it was a mess in terms of liability...

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Sep 29, 2023 21:43:30   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Our local school district was offered $8.3 million for twenty-two electric buses and peripherals. They declined the offer. There was too much to do to meet the requirements and provide charging facilities. A fire that couldn't be extinguished was another concern. I think it's just as well.


Yup, more Lithium for the rest of us.

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Sep 29, 2023 22:00:38   #
Haenzel Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands
 
Bloke wrote:
As a school bus driver for 17 years, I can confidently say that no school disctrict will allow students to be standing on the bus while in motion. One of our hardest jobs was keeping them in their seats! The liability issues in case of an accident are horrendous. During my driving career, I was involved in a couple of accidents, and even with all the students seated, it was a mess in terms of liability...


I can imagine keeping students in their seats is a tough job but the fact a bus is an EV doesn't make that job any easier or harder....In Europe it is quite common for passengers to stand during the ride; I agree there is a security risk involved.

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Sep 29, 2023 22:46:08   #
drivered Loc: Capital District, NY
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Our local school district was offered $8.3 million for twenty-two electric buses and peripherals. They declined the offer. There was too much to do to meet the requirements and provide charging facilities. A fire that couldn't be extinguished was another concern. I think it's just as well.


You have smart people in your district

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Sep 30, 2023 09:07:52   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
drivered wrote:
You have smart people in your district


Let's not jump to conclusions! 🤣

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Jan 1, 2024 00:49:31   #
drivered Loc: Capital District, NY
 
Good for them. Anyone who buys an electric vehicle of any kind hasn’t done enough research. IMHO

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Jan 1, 2024 10:28:10   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
drivered wrote:
Good for them. Anyone who buys an electric vehicle of any kind hasn’t done enough research. IMHO


There are pros and cons to EVs, but I think the cons outweigh the pros. I'm sticking with internal combustion.

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