Image stabilization & long exposures (Page 2): And Minolta has how large of a market share in 2023? Honeywell? As a reminder to all the owners of also-rans and never-weres: out of...

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Basil_O wrote:

So check your facts. Minolta introduced AF in 1985. Honeywell had developed the process in the 70's.

And Minolta has how large of a market share in 2023? Honeywell?

As a reminder to all the owners of also-rans and never-weres: out of every 10 cameras sold worldwide in 2022, 5 of them are Canon EOS models. Just like it's been for 20+ years, going back to the mid 1990s.

Basil_O Loc: Minneapolis, MN

TheShoe wrote:

Check your reading, the comment was about IBIS, not ILIS.

Nope. Reading is fine. The first part if the comment was about AF and the EOS system.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

rehess wrote:

Market leading technology??????
Now you Canon guys are as bad as the Nikon guys. Believe it or not, the world of cameras existed before MILCs.
The used Pentax K-30 I purchased in 2015 had IBIS - exactly when did Canon ‘discover’ IBIS??

I had 5.5 stops of Image Stabilization back in 2011. Canon and Nikon may be working IBIS now, but they were not back then.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

tommymac wrote:

I am shooting some long exposure waterfalls this week and wondering whether I should turn off IS on my canon RF lens (using r6). Thanks.

It turns itself off.

Basil_O Loc: Minneapolis, MN

CHG_CANON wrote:

And Minolta has how large of a market share in 2023? Honeywell?

As a reminder, out of every 10 cameras sold worldwide in 2022, 5 of them are Canon EOS models. Just like it's been for 20+ years, going back to the mid 1990s.

Not arguing with that. Actually, Sony is the successor to the Minolta legacy after buying the camera portion of the company and jump starting their entry into the digital photography market.

tommymac Loc: Green Bay, Wisconsin

CHG_CANON wrote:

Come on. This is 21st century, market-leading EOS technology. It's been well over a decade of market leadership from Canon in the area of Image Stabilization. This leading Canon IS technology includes the 'smarts' to sense a stable tripod platform and not cause any problem. You're more likely to forget to turn IS back on than it will impact your long-exposure images. Passing around outdated suggestions and non-Canon best practices is what makes the internet such a cesspool.

Thanks Paul. I’ll heed your advice.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

CHG_CANON wrote:

As a reminder to all the owners of also-rans and never-weres: out of every 10 cameras sold worldwide in 2022, 5 of them are Canon EOS models. Just like it's been for 20+ years, going back to the mid 1990s.

Yes, Canon marketing is fine.

Even I had three spread over twenty years, the film EOS was OK, but then I was let down by two digital cameras in a row. In each case, the camera showed signs of processor problems, then completely failed.

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

tommymac wrote:

I am shooting some long exposure waterfalls this week and wondering whether I should turn off IS on my canon RF lens (using r6). Thanks.

I suggest that you read your manuals carefully, then do some experimentation to see how your camera and lenses function. On my newest cameras, IS gradually fades away starting after about 5 seconds and is gone completely after 10 or 15 seconds.

gunflint Loc: Rocky Mountain High, Colorado

CHG_CANON wrote:

Come on. This is 21st century, market-leading EOS technology. It's been well over a decade of market leadership from Canon in the area of Image Stabilization. This leading Canon IS technology includes the 'smarts' to sense a stable tripod platform and not cause any problem. You're more likely to forget to turn IS back on than it will impact your long-exposure images. Passing around outdated suggestions and non-Canon best practices is what makes the internet such a cesspool.

I agree, and I always forget to turn it off anyway...

SnappyHappy Loc: Chapin, SC “The Capitol of Lake Murray”

tommymac wrote:

I am shooting some long exposure waterfalls this week and wondering whether I should turn off IS on my canon RF lens (using r6). Thanks.

I also disable IS when on my tripod. The N/D filter suggestion is always worthwhile when shooting waterfalls. I might suggest that you also make a series of bursts without the N/D filter. You can blend them in post to achieve a similar blur effect on the moving parts of your scene. This can be an effective work around for an occasion that you are without a tripod.

rcarol

wdross wrote:

I had 5.5 stops of Image Stabilization back in 2011. Canon and Nikon may be working IBIS now, but they were not back then.

Back in the day of emerging IS, Canon came to the conclusion that optical stabilization was more effective in longer focal length lenses than was IBIS. Furthermore, they had concluded that longer focal lenses benefited from IS than wide lenses. So, optical image stabilization is where they put their money.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

rcarol wrote:

Back in the day of emerging IS, Canon came to the conclusion that optical stabilization was more effective in longer focal length lenses than was IBIS. Furthermore, they had concluded that longer focal lenses benefited from IS than wide lenses. So, optical image stabilization is where they put their money.

For film yes.
Apparently the R7 has IBIS - maybe they’re trying both ways now {they apparently have money to throw at issues}.

Canon wrote:

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rcarol

Not just for film. Canon adhered to their policy of optical stabilization for most of the DSLRs as well.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Basil_O wrote:

So check your facts. Minolta introduced AF in 1985. Honeywell had developed the process in the 70's.

Nope, read carefully (and check YOUR facts) I didn’t say Canon was the FIRST camera with AF, which was the Konica C35 in 1977 (not Minolta). I SAID “Canon popularized AF”.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

rcarol wrote:

Back in the day of emerging IS, Canon came to the conclusion that optical stabilization was more effective in longer focal length lenses than was IBIS. Furthermore, they had concluded that longer focal lenses benefited from IS than wide lenses. So, optical image stabilization is where they put their money.

Exactly.