monochrome versus color conversion to B&W
Aug 24, 2023 13:50:23 #
Ysarex
Loc: St. Louis
selmslie wrote:
You keep repeating that mantra.
Because it's correct. Your attempt to discredit that mantra is just dumb.
selmslie wrote:
But I can find only one B&W image from you where you did a B&W conversion. https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-649304-1.html
The height of stupid to think you can assess my involvement in b&w photography from some posts on an internet forum.
Aug 24, 2023 14:50:18 #
Ysarex wrote:
The height of stupid to think you can assess my involvement in b&w photography from some posts on an internet forum.
It's pretty easy to assess your involvement in B&W photography. It's minimal and superficial.
You have never displayed evidence of an interest in B&W photograph on this site or any other. I can find only two B&W digital images here from you. If you could walk the walk you would be posting B&W images you are proud of. You show little or no interest in producing quality B&W images.
I am involved in both color and B&W photography. Click on one of the links under my signature line. You will find plenty of examples of the kind of photography that interests me - color and B&W, digital and film from small to large format. I have posted some of those on this forum. I am comfortable with B&W and have been for decades.
You main interest is in arguing about the mechanics of photography. You are a photo-mechanic, not a creative photographer.
Aug 24, 2023 15:30:37 #
Ysarex
Loc: St. Louis
selmslie wrote:
It's pretty easy to assess your involvement in B&W photography. It's minimal and superficial.
You have never displayed evidence of an interest in B&W photograph on this site or any other. I can find only two B&W digital images here from you. If you could walk the walk you would be posting B&W images you are proud of. You show little or no interest in producing quality B&W images.
You have never displayed evidence of an interest in B&W photograph on this site or any other. I can find only two B&W digital images here from you. If you could walk the walk you would be posting B&W images you are proud of. You show little or no interest in producing quality B&W images.
That is completely ignorant. You have barely an inkling of my background and involvement in photography. To think you can tell that from some posts on a web forum is stupid.
Aug 24, 2023 15:32:00 #
Ysarex wrote:
That is completely ignorant. You have barely have an inkling of my background and involvement in photography. To think you can tell that from some posts on a web forum is stupid.
Prove me wrong.
Aug 24, 2023 15:33:01 #
Ysarex
Loc: St. Louis
selmslie wrote:
Prove me wrong.
No need to prove that stupid is stupid -- you're self documenting.
Aug 24, 2023 15:35:32 #
Ysarex wrote:
No need to prove that stupid is stupid.
That's a childish retort. The truth hurts, doesn't it.
Aug 24, 2023 15:43:47 #
Retired CPO wrote:
Oh, wow. It's so sad to see you back!
There you are, yesterdays news on the hoof.
Aug 24, 2023 15:46:48 #
Canisdirus wrote:
No...just a habit. I don't think about dslr's much.
But if you were looking for a middle ground...I'd suggest a DSLR for B&W.
The Pentax K3M3 Monochrome dslr.
If you can't do Leica...that's a good option that is affrodable.
But if you were looking for a middle ground...I'd suggest a DSLR for B&W.
The Pentax K3M3 Monochrome dslr.
If you can't do Leica...that's a good option that is affrodable.
Assuming it has live view, you could even put it on a tripod and play at being youknowwho.
Aug 24, 2023 16:02:15 #
selmslie wrote:
What is obvious is that you have no hands-on experience with a monochrome sensor.
It's not necessary to tweak the colors during a B&W conversion unless you are trying to produce a particular effect. If you don't want to do that then a monochrome sensor will do a better job.
You can't make an informed assessment of the tradeoffs involved based on clueless speculation and Google searches.
It's not necessary to tweak the colors during a B&W conversion unless you are trying to produce a particular effect. If you don't want to do that then a monochrome sensor will do a better job.
You can't make an informed assessment of the tradeoffs involved based on clueless speculation and Google searches.
Yes...that is what post processing is for...to achieve desired images.
You can PP a color image till the cows come home...you can't if you take the shot in B&W...not nearly as much.
Sharpness is hardly even an issue anymore...and the resolution...well...you would have to tell everyone...they wouldn't see it on their own.
Aug 24, 2023 16:09:21 #
Ysarex wrote:
That's just dumb. Being able to control the color ... (show quote)
I prefer the look using the monochrome sensor, but you definitely lose information with it. Red and green have the same values, and the red stripe is washed out.
Aug 24, 2023 16:58:00 #
Aug 24, 2023 17:21:47 #
Ysarex
Loc: St. Louis
andesbill wrote:
I prefer the look using the monochrome sensor, but you definitely lose information with it. Red and green have the same values, and the red stripe is washed out.
It wasn't really a monochrome sensor -- that's why I put monochrome in parenthesis. It was the color image desaturated without any adjustments to control the color conversion to grayscale; what you could expect from a monochrome sensor. And yes, the point is that the red and green that are very different seen in color become the same greyscale tone when converted if you don't control that color conversion.
Aug 24, 2023 18:10:24 #
Aug 24, 2023 22:20:23 #
User ID wrote:
It was somewhat interesting in the last several exact same discussions this year ... but its not interesting anymore. Its just yesterdays news.
If the op is interested in checking out a recent thread on the topic, please see:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-782163-1.html
This doesn't supercede the current thread, it just adds some additional info.
Aug 25, 2023 06:40:53 #
Ditto: "I will continue to prefer creating B&W images from color raw files."
dkeysser wrote:
I am thinking about having one of my digital camer... (show quote)
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