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Aug 21, 2023 16:37:17   #
GregoryF Loc: Bella Vista, AR
 
ken_stern wrote:
My Canon 5Ds in quiet mode is quite quiet


Agree..as my 5Dsr is as well

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Aug 21, 2023 16:41:49   #
rcarol
 
Alyn Wolf wrote:
Is there such thing as a quiet DSLR? I shoot regularly with an Olympus EM-10 camera that is quiet, quiet, quiet. The one thing I don't like about the Olympus is the electronic viewfinder. I have experimented with various DSLR cameras and find them to be extremely noisy, but I like everything else about them. It seems that the only way to have a workable optical viewfinder is with a DSLR. Comments, suggestions.


I have the Canon 6D DSLR. It is nearly as quiet as my Olys. The sound that the Canon makes is different than the Olys but is relatively quiet. Specifically, what is it about the EV that you don't like. Personally, I prefer the EV of the Oly cameras.

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Aug 21, 2023 16:49:02   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Alyn Wolf wrote:
Is there such thing as a quiet DSLR? I shoot regularly with an Olympus EM-10 camera that is quiet, quiet, quiet. The one thing I don't like about the Olympus is the electronic viewfinder. I have experimented with various DSLR cameras and find them to be extremely noisy, but I like everything else about them. It seems that the only way to have a workable optical viewfinder is with a DSLR. Comments, suggestions.


To keep your camera quiet, "lose" no present equipment (along with not increasing size, weight, and cost with some other larger format), and make your EVF better, buy an E-M10 mkIV, an OM-5, or OM-1 that will keep you quiet and very happy. The mkIV will provide you a smile for your face. And the OM-5 or OM-1 will put you ahead with even more advanced equipment. And the EVF in the OM-1 is 5 million pixels. Since all three cameras refresh their EVFs at 60fps or faster, if you can actually see a difference in the EVF versus what you see with your unhindered right eye, you would be the only person in America that I would know that could do that.

Or you could wait just a little longer. It is expected that the E-M10 mkIV will be replaced sometime soon with the "OM-10".

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Aug 21, 2023 16:55:30   #
Alyn Wolf Loc: Colorado Springs
 
rcarol wrote:
I have the Canon 6D DSLR. It is nearly as quiet as my Olys. The sound that the Canon makes is different than the Olys but is relatively quiet. Specifically, what is it about the EV that you don't like. Personally, I prefer the EV of the Oly cameras.


I am out in nature quite a bit with my camera. So I spend a lot of time looking through the viewfinder since it's too bright to look at the LCD screen. The EVF gives me an artificial view of everything. It is quite tiring to my eyes. Looking back and forth from the viewfinder to the real thing sort of throws me off balance. I remember using some of those old cannon cameras that had straight through optical viewfinders. I never had this problem with those. I don't think they even make that type of camera anymore. The last may have been something like the Canon g15.
I must admit that the Olympus electronic viewfinders are probably some of the best EVFs out there.

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Aug 21, 2023 16:55:36   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Maybe a 'digital rangefinder camera'.

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Aug 21, 2023 16:59:51   #
Alyn Wolf Loc: Colorado Springs
 
wdross wrote:
To keep your camera quiet, "lose" no present equipment (along with not increasing size, weight, and cost with some other larger format), and make your EVF better, buy an E-M10 mkIV, an OM-5, or OM-1 that will keep you quiet and very happy. The mkIV will provide you a smile for your face. And the OM-5 or OM-1 will put you ahead with even more advanced equipment. And the EVF in the OM-1 is 5 million pixels. Since all three cameras refresh their EVFs at 60fps or faster, if you can actually see a difference in the EVF versus what you see with your unhindered right eye, you would be the only person in America that I would know that could do that.

Or you could wait just a little longer. It is expected that the E-M10 mkIV will be replaced sometime soon with the "OM-10".
To keep your camera quiet, "lose" no pre... (show quote)


You've made some good points there and I have considered moving up to a newer Olympus body

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Aug 21, 2023 17:02:12   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
therwol wrote:
There is some truth to this. But the OP wants that optical viewfinder. That's the reason for the question.

An old film rangefinder would address both the noise and OVF issues.

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Aug 21, 2023 17:18:19   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
ken_stern wrote:
My Canon 5Ds in quiet mode is quite quiet


I'm not familiar with the Canon quiet mode. The Nikon Silent Mode takes the mirror out of the equation by having it up all of the time. It is then necessary to use the screen on the back of the camera for composition. All Nikon DSLRs but the D780 use contrast detection when the mirror is up, and performance is dismal for moving subjects. The camera "hunts" for proper focus. The Silent Mode uses the electronic shutter in the camera, and not being a stacked or global shutter, you can get the rolling shutter artifact. Not ideal on for many reasons. Just update your camera with a newer version that will use the lenses that you already own. You'll certainly get a better EVF.

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Aug 21, 2023 18:49:22   #
Archboo3 Loc: Central Florida
 
Why not go mirrorless.

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Aug 21, 2023 22:19:08   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Alyn Wolf wrote:
Is there such thing as a quiet DSLR? I shoot regularly with an Olympus EM-10 camera that is quiet, quiet, quiet. The one thing I don't like about the Olympus is the electronic viewfinder. I have experimented with various DSLR cameras and find them to be extremely noisy, but I like everything else about them. It seems that the only way to have a workable optical viewfinder is with a DSLR. Comments, suggestions.


Alas, the dSLR is a dinosaur and the market for them is dying or dead in most cases. Nearly all of the research, development, innovation, and marketing is going into mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras and smartphones.

There are some cameras with excellent electronic viewfinders. When you look for a replacement for your EM-10, check out the OM-1 from OM Digital Systems (Olympus sold their camera division a while ago). Look at Lumix gear, too, which takes the all the same lenses.

The OM-10 is is considered a low-tier Micro 4/3 camera in the old Olympus family. It's an older design, too.

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Aug 21, 2023 22:38:59   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
burkphoto wrote:
Alas, the dSLR is a dinosaur and the market for them is dying or dead in most cases. Nearly all of the research, development, innovation, and marketing is going into mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras and smartphones.

There are exceptions.

Pentax still makes DSLRs and is finding ways to give them the capabilities normally associated with “mirrorless” cameras; they actually had IBIS before the ‘mirrorless’ cameras did. Now Pentax has a ‘Film Project’ which studying resurrecting film cameras, giving them some of the capabilities which have been developed for DSLRs in recent years. These are not easy projects - they are true R&D - but it is false to believe that new developments are happening only for MILC.

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Aug 21, 2023 22:43:13   #
lmTrying Loc: WV Northern Panhandle
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Imagine a silent world of mirrorless swans. The slap of a mirror will shortly be treated like lighting a cigarette indoors. You and your obnoxious loud camera will be asked to leave.


Are there not places now that don't allow noisy cameras?

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Aug 22, 2023 00:10:35   #
Beenthere
 
[/quote]The OM-10 is is considered a low-tier Micro 4/3 camera in the old Olympus family. It's an older design, too.

While that is mostly true, The EM10 is considered an entry level OM-D, but in name only. With the MkIV the sensor is new, The AF is improved as well as a number of other features.., but the size and weight has remained as one of the more manageable in the small mirrorless interchangeable lens category.

I often hear comments regarding the limited number of pixels, so if you compare APS-C or FF sensors which are 2 to 4 time as big, you begin to understand pixel density. The smaller area of the M4/3 sensor means it will only hold a limited number of pixels and still remain competitive with its larger brothers, still delivering quality images. Also the less mass in the M4/3 sensor means the IBIS has less bulk to move around meaning faster response. It's physics gents. I would suggest that other camera manufacturers get hip to this and jump on the M4/3 bandwagon, but they won't as marketing "Bigger is Better" dominates. Finally it's been proven that prints made from M4/3 cameras are equally as good as other prints except when blown up to billboards several feet by several feet. It's at that point that Physics takes over again, but for most other purposes the M4/3 prints do just fine.

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Aug 22, 2023 00:11:51   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
My D500 is very quiet! Especially compared to my D850! It's a very quiet and pleasant sounding double click that I really like!! And it has a real viewfinder. And a lot of other good stuff!

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Aug 22, 2023 02:12:05   #
imagextrordinair Loc: Halden, Norway
 
Alyn Wolf wrote:
Is there such thing as a quiet DSLR? I shoot regularly with an Olympus EM-10 camera that is quiet, quiet, quiet. The one thing I don't like about the Olympus is the electronic viewfinder. I have experimented with various DSLR cameras and find them to be extremely noisy, but I like everything else about them. It seems that the only way to have a workable optical viewfinder is with a DSLR. Comments, suggestions.


1DX MK3... total silent electronic shutter in live view and the eye detection is absolute dead-on. First curtain electronic "soft" shutter is awesome for fashion shoots and the speed is adjustable.

Perhaps mirrorless bodies should not come with a live screen. Most will explain how mirrorless superiority comes from the viewfinder and lack of mirror...

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