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Aug 22, 2023 16:33:39   #
Alyn Wolf Loc: Colorado Springs
 
wdross wrote:
Again, look at the lens comparisons before choosing to change formats. The new Sonys, Canons, and Nikons are really great cameras. And in reality there is not that much difference between the lightest and heaviest bodies of all the formats. But once one starts looking at what could be their ultimate lens list, the size, weight, and cost can suddenly become a problem. This is why my Olympus 300 f4 Pro IS (under 10" long, 2.7 pounds, and $2900) and no tripod could be a better travel "companion" than the Sony, Canon, or Nikon 600 f4 IS lenses plus the required tripod (16" or more long, 6.5 pounds or more, and more than $13,000 for the same angle of view plus tripod size, weight, and cost). If you don't like size, weight, and cost, stick with what you have and just upgrade the body. I personally think in the long run you will be happier.
Again, look at the lens comparisons before choosin... (show quote)


That makes sense to me. Good advice.

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Aug 22, 2023 23:31:14   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Unless you're using your camera in a church or library, or in a theater shooting a dramatic stage play, I don't see why a camera needs to be so "quiet". If you shoot mostly outdoors, to me the camera noise is a non-issue. I do fire photography and there's enough other noise from fire vehicles, helicopters and other aircraft that nobody will ever hear the camera. Even for those cameras that have a "quite shutter" mode, like my Nikon. D7100/7200, you're still going to hear it.

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Aug 23, 2023 01:35:25   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
Alyn Wolf wrote:
Is there such thing as a quiet DSLR? I shoot regularly with an Olympus EM-10 camera that is quiet, quiet, quiet. The one thing I don't like about the Olympus is the electronic viewfinder. I have experimented with various DSLR cameras and find them to be extremely noisy, but I like everything else about them. It seems that the only way to have a workable optical viewfinder is with a DSLR. Comments, suggestions.


Canon at one time made a pellical camera (Canon Pelix) with no moveable mirror — thus no “mirror-slap”. Only sound was shutter moving.

old OLD tech . . . .

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Aug 23, 2023 07:41:31   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
If you fixate on the noise, any camera is going to be too noisy.

If you fixate on the light, every flash is going to be too brightand too startling.

Every photographer is going to be too slow.

Every equipment bag is going to be too obtrusive.

Come on. Grow up. Get over it. If you want a mirrorless, shutterless camera, get one. Quit being mental about stuff. It is a pernicious disease in our society.

Enough already! Otherwise let's just get rid of photography altogether.

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Aug 23, 2023 08:25:54   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
larryepage wrote:
If you fixate on the noise, any camera is going to be too noisy.


NO. When you have a large enough brain to go mirrorless with an all-electronic shutter, you hear no noise other than your breathing, and the inner hum of supreme satisfaction.

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Aug 23, 2023 09:20:31   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Wyantry wrote:
Canon at one time made a pellical camera (Canon Pelix) with no moveable mirror — thus no “mirror-slap”. Only sound was shutter moving.

old OLD tech . . . .

My wife has complained that my ‘screw-drive’ lens makes noise focusing, but never a comment about my DSLR.

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Aug 23, 2023 09:44:21   #
Alyn Wolf Loc: Colorado Springs
 
larryepage wrote:
If you fixate on the noise, any camera is going to be too noisy.

If you fixate on the light, every flash is going to be too brightand too startling.

Every photographer is going to be too slow.

Every equipment bag is going to be too obtrusive.

Come on. Grow up. Get over it. If you want a mirrorless, shutterless camera, get one. Quit being mental about stuff. It is a pernicious disease in our society.

Enough already! Otherwise let's just get rid of photography altogether.
If you fixate on the noise, any camera is going to... (show quote)


Aha! Well said.

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Aug 23, 2023 09:59:28   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
larryepage wrote:
If you fixate on the noise, any camera is going to be too noisy.

If you fixate on the light, every flash is going to be too brightand too startling.

Every photographer is going to be too slow.

Every equipment bag is going to be too obtrusive.

Come on. Grow up. Get over it. If you want a mirrorless, shutterless camera, get one. Quit being mental about stuff. It is a pernicious disease in our society.

Enough already! Otherwise let's just get rid of photography altogether.
If you fixate on the noise, any camera is going to... (show quote)



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Aug 23, 2023 10:31:16   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
The silent mirrorless cameras are, by every comment I read, a boon to photography with their silent shutters, their EVF and even to the resultant photographs. However, it also seems that the majority of purchases for MILCs are by professionals or budding pros. The exorbitant cost to change from a often less expensive DSLR that provides equivalent photographic results to the much higher cost MILC just isn't within the restrictions (financial or personal desires) of the amateur or upcoming professional photographer. Many of us, myself included, started photography in the days of film only. We had the loud "CLICK" of the shutter and the firm assurance that the shutter operated. Why should each and every photographer, from the rankest amateur to the highest priced professional, be "required" to give up their current, paid for, equipment to spend more on extremely expensive equipment to satisfy the relative few who do not want to hear a camera click?

To me it is the same as the person who says, "your (actions or words) have/has offended me." I feel that person cannot control their emotions or thinking so they want me to control those emotions or thoughts for them. Sorry, not sorry, but my rights indicate I do not have to do that for you. Example, I am offended by the actions of demonstrators who insult, desecrate, deface, disrespect the flag of my country. However if I try to stop those people, I am not supporting their right to their version of "free speech." Where is my right of free speech? It is a double edged sword. Sometimes we must swallow our pride, feelings or beliefs. Often times it seems that others do not do that for us.

People have become too sensitive and intolerant of others. Everyone should realize we are all individuals and have rights and responsibilities. Each person is responsible to support all other persons' rights, just as all others are responsible to support each person's rights. Another way to express it, "Your right to wave your arms in the air ends where my nose begins."

Yes, consideration and courtesy plays a part in the OP's "rant" but I also think the OP should at least consider the photographers' judgment lapse and think maybe if they are informed, courteously, of the incident they may not repeat it in the future, and not offend at the next wedding. Sometime communication and gentle expression can make changes. One doesn't need a sledgehammer to place carpet tacks.

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Aug 23, 2023 10:48:01   #
BebuLamar
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
NO. When you have a large enough brain to go mirrorless with an all-electronic shutter, you hear no noise other than your breathing, and the inner hum of supreme satisfaction.


If you have large enough brain you can go cameraless imaging.

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Aug 23, 2023 10:50:57   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
BebuLamar wrote:
If you have large enough brain you can go cameraless imaging.


When you become one with your camera, the magic begins.

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Aug 23, 2023 20:57:17   #
Alyn Wolf Loc: Colorado Springs
 
PhotogHobbyist wrote:
The silent mirrorless cameras are, by every comment I read, a boon to photography with their silent shutters, their EVF and even to the resultant photographs. However, it also seems that the majority of purchases for MILCs are by professionals or budding pros. The exorbitant cost to change from a often less expensive DSLR that provides equivalent photographic results to the much higher cost MILC just isn't within the restrictions (financial or personal desires) of the amateur or upcoming professional photographer. Many of us, myself included, started photography in the days of film only. We had the loud "CLICK" of the shutter and the firm assurance that the shutter operated. Why should each and every photographer, from the rankest amateur to the highest priced professional, be "required" to give up their current, paid for, equipment to spend more on extremely expensive equipment to satisfy the relative few who do not want to hear a camera click?

To me it is the same as the person who says, "your (actions or words) have/has offended me." I feel that person cannot control their emotions or thinking so they want me to control those emotions or thoughts for them. Sorry, not sorry, but my rights indicate I do not have to do that for you. Example, I am offended by the actions of demonstrators who insult, desecrate, deface, disrespect the flag of my country. However if I try to stop those people, I am not supporting their right to their version of "free speech." Where is my right of free speech? It is a double edged sword. Sometimes we must swallow our pride, feelings or beliefs. Often times it seems that others do not do that for us.

People have become too sensitive and intolerant of others. Everyone should realize we are all individuals and have rights and responsibilities. Each person is responsible to support all other persons' rights, just as all others are responsible to support each person's rights. Another way to express it, "Your right to wave your arms in the air ends where my nose begins."

Yes, consideration and courtesy plays a part in the OP's "rant" but I also think the OP should at least consider the photographers' judgment lapse and think maybe if they are informed, courteously, of the incident they may not repeat it in the future, and not offend at the next wedding. Sometime communication and gentle expression can make changes. One doesn't need a sledgehammer to place carpet tacks.
The silent mirrorless cameras are, by every commen... (show quote)


I'm the OP. My intention was not a rant or a put down of any kind. I just asked a question?.

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Aug 24, 2023 07:20:18   #
BebuLamar
 
Alyn Wolf wrote:
I'm the OP. My intention was not a rant or a put down of any kind. I just asked a question?.


Some DSLR's (or SLR) are quiet than others but since you want to use the reflex finder and not EVF or liveview you always have the mirror flapping.
There is no DSLR with non moving mirror (the Sony A77/A99 are not DSLR's and they have EVF) but if some company would make a DSLR with a pelicle mirror and an electronic shutter it would be a silent DSLR although none ever made. Such a camera would lose 1/2 stop of light to the sensor and the viewfinder is dim.

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