Do AI images even belong on UHH?
Aug 20, 2023 15:24:15 #
Longshadow wrote:
Like posting to the wrong category here?
You VILL conform......
Like posting to the wrong category here?
You VILL conform......
I was told to reply to a SPECIFIC msg... I should use "quote reply" is this NOT correct mein furher?
Aug 20, 2023 15:28:19 #
alphadog wrote:
I was told to reply to a SPECIFIC msg... I should use "quote reply" is this NOT correct mein furher?
Ya, das ist gut.
Aug 20, 2023 15:35:47 #
iceaxman47 wrote:
We take photos to show others what we saw. Why bring AI into the photo and lie about what we photographed? Be honest about your photography.
First of all, the photos we take are edited in some fashion, whether that is in-camera lighting or cropping or color enhancement. It may not be what we saw, but what we want what we saw to be. Second, while I am not a fan of AI, having used it in my last job, it does, with the right description by the person asking for it, generate some awesome images. So, in a real sense, it is a creative display of the description by the "creator." If you only want to show your work as a photographer, that's fine. But to deny that AI is in any way an art form is false. Like I said, I don't like it because it hampers my image-making creativity. But it has made me a more concise author who now pays more attention to the written detail.
Aug 20, 2023 15:38:37 #
magnetoman wrote:
No, it’s an image - an image could be a photograph, a painting or an AI creation. To view an image it does not need to be a photograph.
Being sarcastic I was.
Aug 20, 2023 15:40:30 #
iceaxman47 wrote:
We take photos to show others what we saw. Why bring AI into the photo and lie about what we photographed? Be honest about your photography.
Some take photos to create.
Aug 20, 2023 15:41:00 #
Longshadow wrote:
Being sarcastic I was.
Sorry, missed that! Think I’ll go quietly back to Digital Artistry, it’s so peaceful over there!
Aug 20, 2023 16:08:46 #
As already mentioned, there is a solution here. I am in two camera clubs and one also added a new category that is reserved for AI/Creative images. They will be shown, but not scored. The guideline is that 'all pixels must come from an image you took in your camera'. Thus a sky added must be a sky that you took, etc. Since there is no way to completely insure adherence, we are openly saying that you are personally responsible. The other club is investigating similar actions, but still being discussed.
Fun times ahead...
Bob
Fun times ahead...
Bob
Aug 20, 2023 16:21:31 #
TreborLow wrote:
As already mentioned, there is a solution here. I... (show quote)
So just how do you prove that a sky (or some other element) was contributed by someone else? Skies are constantly changing. Is the photographer innocent until proven guilty? And just how would proof of guilt be determined? Can you subpoena the photographer's computer?
I don't see that as a solution. I see it as something like a HOA regulation. Only there for looks.
Aug 20, 2023 16:24:28 #
YES, AI can be called an art form but at least be honest about what kind of art you are putting out their. Don't say "This is my painting" or "This is my photograph" if you used AI to "make" it. Say "It's AI generated." or "AI used with my photo as a background...or part of the image is a photo I shot". Kudos to honesty!
Aug 20, 2023 16:37:13 #
Aug 20, 2023 16:43:45 #
Well, I am certainly surprised your question only generated 12 pages so far. 
Aug 20, 2023 16:55:08 #
Hmmm...
User created with the aid of a camera;
user created with the aid of an editor;
user created with the aid of AI.
Just another tool for a user to utilize?
In a few years AI will be commonplace and accepted,
whether we like it or not.
And there will still be those, until attrition overcomes, that say "Phht, that's not a photo.".
User created with the aid of a camera;
user created with the aid of an editor;
user created with the aid of AI.
Just another tool for a user to utilize?
In a few years AI will be commonplace and accepted,
whether we like it or not.
And there will still be those, until attrition overcomes, that say "Phht, that's not a photo.".
Aug 20, 2023 16:56:21 #
Burtzy wrote:
First of all, the photos we take are edited in so... (show quote)
Indeed, the widely venerated Ansel Adams was explicit that, quite regularly if not inevitably, if you were there when he snapped the shutter, you would not recognize what you had seen in what you saw in his print.
Aug 20, 2023 16:57:44 #
cbtsam wrote:
Indeed, the widely venerated Ansel Adams was explicit that, quite regularly if not inevitably, if you were there when he snapped the shutter, you would not recognize what you had seen in what you saw in his print.
Aug 20, 2023 17:19:59 #
billnikon wrote:
Lier, Lier, my pants are on fire. Dead tree, not there in original, pine trees in background, AI added, sky, yep you bet, added! OUCH, my crouch hurts just thinking about it. Not to mention Haze removal, contrast added in RAW.
So
The results, as a work of photographic art, are estimable. Here: 💰💰💰💰💰
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