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Aug 20, 2023 11:16:22   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
Longshadow wrote:
Isn't that their problem/misfortune?

Admin (or someone) posted an announcement when it was created.
That's how I knew about it.

People interested in AI will view it.
People who despise AI will ignore it.


People who don't care one way or the other will also ignore it.

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Aug 20, 2023 11:23:48   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Sinewsworn wrote:
Finally this thread is heading to the root question: we have to develop an ethic for this. Definitions and rules/laws can then allow us to move forward. Those with no training/education/experience in sociology or psychology should refrain from making sweeping general comments about how people interpret things like images.

YES!

One's own opinion does not cover everyone!
Nor should it.
No matter how much one believes it should or thinks it does or how much they want it to.

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Aug 20, 2023 11:23:57   #
salawrence1 Loc: California
 
Why would you say that?

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Aug 20, 2023 11:25:57   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
unfollowing this drivel...

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Aug 20, 2023 11:28:08   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
burkphoto wrote:
unfollowing this drivel...

Good for you!

I like the entertainment aspect.

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Aug 20, 2023 11:28:41   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
I believe the UHH Community Forum is a social venue where people across the world can communicate and share their common interests regardless of what they are. Yes, photography topics and posted images make up the bulk of the posts.

UHH is a site where mature adults benefit from the connections they make here so its value is more than showcasing one's photography. Many live alone and UHH may perhaps be one of their few social connections. It is also a valuable resource where one can keep their mind and creativity active which is important as we age so using graphic programs to enhance, edit, and completely create are important and should not be discouraged.

I'll step down from my soap box now.

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Aug 20, 2023 11:30:22   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
I believe the UHH Community Forum is a social venue where people across the world can communicate and share their common interests regardless of what they are. Yes, photography topics and posted images make up the bulk of the posts.

UHH is a site where mature adults benefit from the connections they make here so its value is more than showcasing one's photography. Many live alone and UHH may perhaps be one of their few social connections. It is also a valuable resource where one can keep their mind and creativity active which is important as we age so using graphic programs to enhance, edit, and completely create are important and should not be discouraged.

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Aug 20, 2023 11:37:27   #
Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)
 
Guyserman wrote:
Given the fact that composite images are NOT photographs, should they even be allowed to be posted on a "Photographic Site" like Ugly Hedgehog?


UHH already has a category where composites fit in very nicely, (Digital Artistry)and as I wrote earlier, there probably will come a time when the very definition of the word "Photograph" will change in order to encompass the technology available.

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Aug 20, 2023 11:40:18   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Yup. There is no light source per se.

Sunlight? Nope.
Flash? Nope
Other identifiable source or light? Nope.

Everything is 'make believe', not real.

Mac is also wrong in his post. The reason is that the both of you are confused as to what light is, what is does in photography.

It is convenient to use 'light source' that is true. It does not mean there is one (or more) when using the 'AI' tool.


Did the AI image originate through light as it has from the beginning?
No.
AI is merely 1s and 0s originating in a computer chip. No light necessary no vision necessary nothing but 1s and 0s.
A photo is created by actual analog light striking some sort of surface that makes an image.
Light is not digital and AI is not analog.

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Aug 20, 2023 11:47:34   #
Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)
 
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Aug 20, 2023 11:47:37   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
burkphoto wrote:
unfollowing this drivel...



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Aug 20, 2023 11:49:06   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
stanikon wrote:
People who don't care one way or the other will also ignore it.


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Aug 20, 2023 12:04:25   #
Chiroman8
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Really, that's the best the hen house has to cluck about this weekend? This social site isn't even really a photography site, so who cares about the occasional image, and its source ....


DearCHG_Canon,

Agree with your statement 100%,you are correct. Interesting !

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Aug 20, 2023 12:13:40   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Howard5252 wrote:
UHH already has a category where composites fit in very nicely, (Digital Artistry)....


Digital artistry is for AI generated images.

Composites fit very nicely into Post Processing Digital Images.

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Aug 20, 2023 12:19:04   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
Who here does NOT have a current camera body that does NOT incorporate some form of AI in it's algorithms ? Lets ban ALL cameras and concentrate on brush and canvas... You all still don't get it... AI is changing EVERYTHING...quit trying to differentiate. Paul hit the nail on the head...

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