Do AI images even belong on UHH?
Aug 20, 2023 09:19:28 #
Manglesphoto wrote:
If you are combining photos you took its not AI
In the darkroom I once put a Tiger in a Photo I took at the Botanical Garden. No computer involved!!
In the darkroom I once put a Tiger in a Photo I took at the Botanical Garden. No computer involved!!
Aug 20, 2023 09:19:39 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Curmudgeon wrote:
Given the fact that AI images are NOT photographs, should they even be allowed to be posted on a "Photographic Site" like Ugly Hedgehog?
Lier, Lier, my pants are on fire. Dead tree, not there in original, pine trees in background, AI added, sky, yep you bet, added! OUCH, my crouch hurts just thinking about it. Not to mention Haze removal, contrast added in RAW.
Aug 20, 2023 09:21:08 #
junglejim1949 wrote:
AI is a tool meant to enhance a photographer's creativity, not replace it.
AI is a way to have a computer create something without having input other than thoughts!!
It is not enhancing your work. Making adjustments is not AI , your are telling the software what and how much you want to change something.
Aug 20, 2023 09:23:22 #
AI is art...it is photography.
Just as much as any post processing is.
Yes...the SOOC crowd is going crazy...but so what.
Just as much as any post processing is.
Yes...the SOOC crowd is going crazy...but so what.
Aug 20, 2023 09:23:29 #
jerryc41 wrote:
But how do we know if they are produced by AI?
Hopefully the fact it will be posted in the AI section Jerry, if people will do that we know there’s absolutely no deceit. Outside of that it’s anyone’s guess.
Aug 20, 2023 09:24:05 #
billnikon wrote:
Lier, Lier, my pants are on fire. Dead tree, not there in original, pine trees in background, AI added, sky, yep you bet, added! OUCH, my crouch hurts just thinking about it. Not to mention Haze removal, contrast added in RAW.
BUT did you "say" add pine trees= AI, Or did you do it? enhancing the image!!!
Have you seen Jerry Uslemanns work?
Aug 20, 2023 09:25:54 #
Canisdirus wrote:
AI is art...it is photography.
Just as much as any post processing is.
Yes...the SOOC crowd is going crazy...but so what.
Just as much as any post processing is.
Yes...the SOOC crowd is going crazy...but so what.
Yea they are.....
Aug 20, 2023 09:30:33 #
Guyserman
Loc: Benton, AR
Curmudgeon wrote:
Given the fact that AI images are NOT photographs, should they even be allowed to be posted on a "Photographic Site" like Ugly Hedgehog?
Given the fact that composite images are NOT photographs, should they even be allowed to be posted on a "Photographic Site" like Ugly Hedgehog?
Aug 20, 2023 09:30:39 #
Architect1776 wrote:
As has been noted there is a section for AI. br A... (show quote)
Multiple photos that are put together are photo-composites, not AI. The section for photo/composites is Digital Artistry. If you mean composites of AI images, the AI section is the right place for them, they were never a photo. But where should combined AI and photos be posted? - in my opinion still in AI as it avoids confusion and deceit.
Aug 20, 2023 09:35:14 #
It doesn't matter...the market has spoken...the consumers are ALL IN.
Might as well make a complaint category on the forum for the SOOC crowd...
So they have someplace to go in a few years...
Might as well make a complaint category on the forum for the SOOC crowd...
So they have someplace to go in a few years...
Aug 20, 2023 09:35:30 #
Guyserman wrote:
Given the fact that composite images are NOT photographs, should they even be allowed to be posted on a "Photographic Site" like Ugly Hedgehog?
Until the advent of AI most composites were combined photographs. Of course they have a place here. And as UHH encompasses the artistic side of image making, so does AI - but both should be posted in the correct section, then those that have no interest in the respective images don’t need to see them.
Aug 20, 2023 09:38:06 #
Guyserman wrote:
Given the fact that composite images are NOT photographs, should they even be allowed to be posted on a "Photographic Site" like Ugly Hedgehog?
I would call that an extreme SOOC position.
How about if we create an AI image and take a photo of it. Is that OK?
Aug 20, 2023 09:38:06 #
Guyserman wrote:
Given the fact that composite images are NOT photographs, should they even be allowed to be posted on a "Photographic Site" like Ugly Hedgehog?
Photograph A + Photograph B = Photograph C.
Composite: adjective describing a type of photograph. A photograph made from two or more other photographs.
ie.
SOOC photograph;
Composite photograph;
B&W photograph;
Color photograph;
Sepia photograph; ...
(It sure isn't a rhinoceros.)
Aug 20, 2023 09:39:43 #
DirtFarmer wrote:
I would call that an extreme SOOC position.
How about if we create an AI image and take a photo of it. Is that OK?
How about if we create an AI image and take a photo of it. Is that OK?
Aug 20, 2023 09:41:34 #
iceaxman47 wrote:
We take photos to show others what we saw. Why bring AI into the photo and lie about what we photographed? Be honest about your photography.
I just have to put my two cents into this. Many "photos" on this and other site have been so manipulated in post that there's no way in the world they represent what the photographer "saw".
I have no problem with any of that. As previously stated if the originator is happy with the results that's all that counts. However lets not try to pass it off as "what we saw".
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