Disclosure of editing when posting pictures
Aug 13, 2023 22:43:30 #
dwmoar
Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
[quote=epd1947][quote=Delderby]There would be no need to ask - we know that brushes were used.
Photography is the art of capturing the real moment as it happened. If you cannot, or aren't good enough, to do that, then you're no photographer. You'd do better to go back to a coloring book and wax crayons.[/
“Photography is the art of capturing the real moment as it happened.” - where is that definition codified? Or is it just your rather myopic and narrow minded opinion?[/quote]
Photography is the art, science, and practice of creating images using light. It involves capturing and recording visual information through the use of a camera or other light-sensitive devices. The word "photography" is derived from the Greek words "phōtos" (light) and "graphē" (drawing or writing), essentially meaning "drawing with light."
Photography is the art of capturing the real moment as it happened. If you cannot, or aren't good enough, to do that, then you're no photographer. You'd do better to go back to a coloring book and wax crayons.[/
“Photography is the art of capturing the real moment as it happened.” - where is that definition codified? Or is it just your rather myopic and narrow minded opinion?[/quote]
Photography is the art, science, and practice of creating images using light. It involves capturing and recording visual information through the use of a camera or other light-sensitive devices. The word "photography" is derived from the Greek words "phōtos" (light) and "graphē" (drawing or writing), essentially meaning "drawing with light."
Aug 14, 2023 03:40:29 #
bdk wrote:
I post them for people to enjoy. Its non of their business how much processing went into it., If asked I would tell what I did, but in a private message, not public.
Millions and millions of people viewing photographs prefer to believe that the pics are an accurate representation of a real moment (event). Often this is why they are viewing in the first place. It could well be the only way that they will ever be able to see remote views and events.
A picture which is anything less than 100% true is deceiving those viewers.
Over the last few years I have heard more and more people saying, e.g., "it's probably just photo-shopped". This has destroyed the crediblity of some fine photographers and their pictures.
Aug 14, 2023 04:36:57 #
dwmoar wrote:
Photography is the art, science, and practice of creating images using light. It involves capturing and recording visual information through the use of a camera or other light-sensitive devices. The word "photography" is derived from the Greek words "phōtos" (light) and "graphē" (drawing or writing), essentially meaning "drawing with light."
Yes - light, not lies.
Aug 14, 2023 06:47:09 #
russjc001
Loc: South Carolina
Good question, but not in my opinion. Adding clouds that were not there at that particular point of time does not change the location’s scene. Some add a tree or flowers. I have seen plenty of “fine art” images that use significant editing that mention nothing of editing changes even if composited. This will be a long discussion with the increased use of AI where zero photography is sometimes used. Everyone shooting in raw will edit any many using various filters to give the image the feeling they were going for - but it definitely “didn’t look like that with your eyes”. Maybe we don’t call it photography but digital photography or similar.
Aug 14, 2023 08:16:58 #
Personally, I think the "modifying" should always be mentioned. Are we looking and admiring the skill and vision of the photographer, or their post processing skills?
Aug 14, 2023 08:26:06 #
Latsok wrote:
Unless you are posting a photojournalistic related photo, you are posting your vision of "your art." Ansel Adams never attached a compendium of notes detailing what areas of the original photograph (as recorded by his cameras) were dodged or burned in the darkroom. Famous painters never disclosed what the original surroundings around the subjects they painted were really like compared to what they depicted on canvas.
Ansel tweaked his images quite a bit at times. But he did not replace foregrounds, backgrounds, etc, with entirely different ones that were not present in the scene. What aAnsel did was completely different, and more true to the scene, that anything that Jerry Uelsmann did in his images.
Aug 14, 2023 08:32:48 #
Aug 14, 2023 08:45:19 #
Dbrow411
Loc: South Daytona, FL
Jerry Uelsmann's images were obviously heavily manipulated. That said, I still don't see anything wrong with post processing. As someone else said, I too start with RAW files so everything I do is manipulated to some extent.
Aug 14, 2023 08:53:08 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Those who can do, do. Those who cannot, complain.
Aug 14, 2023 10:01:10 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
If Ansel Adams was the photographer worthy of that name, he'd do a better job Straight Out Of Camera like a Real Photographer.
Straight out of the camera is what armature photographers do. Professional photographers post process
Aug 14, 2023 10:40:40 #
delder
Loc: Maryland
dwmoar wrote:
Photography is the art, science, and practice of creating images using light. It involves capturing and recording visual information through the use of a camera or other light-sensitive devices. The word "photography" is derived from the Greek words "phōtos" (light) and "graphē" (drawing or writing), essentially meaning "drawing with light."
I agree with this viewpoint.
When we move the discussion to IMAGES, it simplifies the discussion.
Aug 14, 2023 12:29:45 #
russjc001
Loc: South Carolina
Well, yes but he also did not have the current tools available. I bet he would love the current editing capability without all the time and chemicals involved. 😁
Aug 14, 2023 12:45:34 #
Dbrow411
Loc: South Daytona, FL
LOL!!! I probably won't have to be embalmed when I kick the bucket. I'd hate to guess how much time I spent in darkrooms breathing in copious amounts of formaldehyde.
Aug 14, 2023 14:05:28 #
Aug 14, 2023 14:17:26 #
delder
Loc: Maryland
CHG_CANON wrote:
Real Photographers use Polaroid.
Memory serves me, there was some activity in altering Polaroid back in the day?
Colored Magic Markers, etc.
[Long ago and Far away!]
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