Disclosure of editing when posting pictures
Aug 11, 2023 16:34:07 #
My guess is that Hollywood doesn’t need all these high paid people to make movies anymore. They don’t need the sound stages or expensive destinations. They will eventually make movies using AI for the story sources and CGI for all the actors. There will be no more actors making millions of dollars. In fact they won’t need Hollywood. Movies and TV entertainment will come from many sources. All those folks now on strike will have nothing to go on strike for.
Sad to see but I’m afraid it’s true.
Sad to see but I’m afraid it’s true.
Aug 11, 2023 17:05:24 #
The surest way to corrupt a novice is to explain the importance of SOOC.
Aug 11, 2023 17:08:24 #
The OP mentions socail media. Does he mean Facebook, Instagram, Tick-Tock whatever? Are we talking about a photo-competition, real journalism, documentary, or legal evidence photogahy? Is it scientific or clinical photography? Come on folks- we are showing off our vacation shots or communicating with our grandchildren- it's entertainment!
If it's a competition, a post on a photo forum, etc., it depends on the rules and categories.
This SOOTC vs. Post-Post- Processg thing is gettg old and growing hair. Ansil Adams and William Mortensen fought the battle in the last century and at the end of the day, they both manipulated the hell out of their images.
Next time I make a portrat of someone's grandmother, with a soft focus lens and do a bit of retouchg, should I attach a disclaimer? "This soft and ethereal image of grandma has been optically manipulated and further enhanced in processing. Her face really looks like a relief map of the Himalayas and can stop an 8-day clock and make it run backward"!
If you are an artist, do your art as you see fit. If you enter a competition, follow the rules and don't cheat. If someone asks how you made any given image, simply tell the truth. If they disagree with your method- that is their problem, not yours! If there are definate rules or standards in any kind of specialized photogahy, adhere to them. If you want to impose rules or principles on yourself, that's good and that's your right and privilege- but don't impose them on everyone else. Calling everyone who disagrees with you to approach a liar or faker is ridiculous unless they are actually breaking a rule, restriction, or law.
If it's a competition, a post on a photo forum, etc., it depends on the rules and categories.
This SOOTC vs. Post-Post- Processg thing is gettg old and growing hair. Ansil Adams and William Mortensen fought the battle in the last century and at the end of the day, they both manipulated the hell out of their images.
Next time I make a portrat of someone's grandmother, with a soft focus lens and do a bit of retouchg, should I attach a disclaimer? "This soft and ethereal image of grandma has been optically manipulated and further enhanced in processing. Her face really looks like a relief map of the Himalayas and can stop an 8-day clock and make it run backward"!
If you are an artist, do your art as you see fit. If you enter a competition, follow the rules and don't cheat. If someone asks how you made any given image, simply tell the truth. If they disagree with your method- that is their problem, not yours! If there are definate rules or standards in any kind of specialized photogahy, adhere to them. If you want to impose rules or principles on yourself, that's good and that's your right and privilege- but don't impose them on everyone else. Calling everyone who disagrees with you to approach a liar or faker is ridiculous unless they are actually breaking a rule, restriction, or law.
Aug 11, 2023 17:15:54 #
Longshadow wrote:
Curious - Does it matter? If so, why?
Because it is a lie.
Aug 11, 2023 17:32:15 #
Architect1776 wrote:
Because it is a lie.
Perception....
We each have our own, don't we.
Aug 11, 2023 18:07:17 #
Aug 11, 2023 18:09:12 #
coolhanduke wrote:
I never mention I did some minor (or major) adjustments to an image unless I get challenged about something.
I got accused of photoshopping this image by adding the plane or whatever.
Adjustments were made with shadows and highlights because the plane was very dark. A slight use of HDR was applied. But I didn't disclose that and didn't feel I needed to.
It's your call. If you feel guilty about it, reveal what adjustment you made and leave it at that.
I got accused of photoshopping this image by adding the plane or whatever.
Adjustments were made with shadows and highlights because the plane was very dark. A slight use of HDR was applied. But I didn't disclose that and didn't feel I needed to.
It's your call. If you feel guilty about it, reveal what adjustment you made and leave it at that.
Breathtaking picture :)
Aug 11, 2023 18:12:49 #
coolhanduke wrote:
I never mention I did some minor (or major) adjustments to an image unless I get challenged about something.
I got accused of photoshopping this image by adding the plane or whatever.
Adjustments were made with shadows and highlights because the plane was very dark. A slight use of HDR was applied. But I didn't disclose that and didn't feel I needed to.
It's your call. If you feel guilty about it, reveal what adjustment you made and leave it at that.
I got accused of photoshopping this image by adding the plane or whatever.
Adjustments were made with shadows and highlights because the plane was very dark. A slight use of HDR was applied. But I didn't disclose that and didn't feel I needed to.
It's your call. If you feel guilty about it, reveal what adjustment you made and leave it at that.
HUGE difference between adjusting. Raw actually requires it. But adding elements is falsifying it.
If it is an artistic effort and to get the effect by faking it, fine. Just don't lie about taking the photo seen, call it a composite of a bunch of photos for artistic purposes.
Aug 11, 2023 18:22:06 #
Life is like photography, it's easy until you start following all the rules explained on the internet.
Aug 11, 2023 19:54:06 #
Architect1776 wrote:
Because it is a lie.
So, are all black and white photos a lie? After all, they don’t provide a faithful representation of the scene being captured. What about if a photographer is shooting a scene using an orange or red filter to dramatically darken a blue sky - is that also a lie?
What about the fact that a photograph is often presented as a work of visual art? Should artists be restricted to merely recording absolute reality? If so, why?
Aug 11, 2023 20:02:00 #
Architect1776 wrote:
Because it is a lie.
Presenting a photograph without comment can't be a lie, because you haven't made any claims about how you made it.
Aug 11, 2023 20:06:38 #
epd1947 wrote:
So, are all black and white photos a lie? After all, they don’t provide a faithful representation of the scene being captured. What about if a photographer is shooting a scene using an orange or red filter to dramatically darken a blue sky - is that also a lie?
What about the fact that a photograph is often presented as a work of visual art? Should artists be restricted to merely recording absolute reality? If so, why?
What about the fact that a photograph is often presented as a work of visual art? Should artists be restricted to merely recording absolute reality? If so, why?
?????????
All see "Color" differently.
No physical element was added that was not there.
The obtuse comments here amaze me.
Aug 11, 2023 20:22:43 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
Presenting a photograph without comment can't be a lie, because you haven't made any claims about how you made it.
An incorrect inference does not count.
Aug 11, 2023 20:49:35 #
damianlv wrote:
My question is: when posting my images on social m... (show quote)
Say nothing. OR
Tell the truth if you want to discuss the picture.
Boris
Aug 11, 2023 20:54:03 #
damianlv wrote:
My question is: when posting my images on social m... (show quote)
I believe most photos posted on social media have been edited….most photographers know this. Not everyone on Facebook is into photography. The issue here, it seems to me, is that the OP felt guilty when someone didn’t think his posted photo looked realistic…what to do or say? IMO adding clouds is more than just editing a photo. Only the OP can decide what response, if any, is appropriate.
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