Disclosure of editing when posting pictures
Aug 11, 2023 13:34:00 #
Basil wrote:
Unless we’re talking photojournalism I assume every nice image I see has been processed in some way. Is it a big deal that Ansel Adams modified his images in the darkroom using dodging and burning? No. He used the tools available to him to modify the original exposure and create art.
The only difference I see is that today we have better tools.
The only difference I see is that today we have better tools.
YES! Photojournalism is a totally different story.
Agreed, Ansel modified the way the "original" looked.
I don't slight him for doing so either.
Aug 11, 2023 13:35:39 #
What is the photo being used for? If it is, for example, a forensic photo to be used in a legal context, accuracy and honesty is important. If you are taking a portrait and use available tools to , say, remove blemishes from the subject, perhaps only the subject should know, . (Hopefully it was at their request.)
As Jerry pointed out, even in the age of film and plates, photos were processed. A photo is processed the moment it enters a camera, based upon exposure settings, focus, film speed, sense, etc. Once film went into the development tank it was processed by solution and time. Printing the negative involved additional processing. The difference now is that we have much greater ability to make significant changes.
I spent two cloudy, dull days at Arches NP. The photos were bland. I was able to make them more interesting in post processing.
The controlling question is whether you are trying to deceive the viewer with your photo in a harmful way. If you are not, then the end product stands on its own merit, because there is creative skill involved from the time you frame the phot until you publish it.
As Jerry pointed out, even in the age of film and plates, photos were processed. A photo is processed the moment it enters a camera, based upon exposure settings, focus, film speed, sense, etc. Once film went into the development tank it was processed by solution and time. Printing the negative involved additional processing. The difference now is that we have much greater ability to make significant changes.
I spent two cloudy, dull days at Arches NP. The photos were bland. I was able to make them more interesting in post processing.
The controlling question is whether you are trying to deceive the viewer with your photo in a harmful way. If you are not, then the end product stands on its own merit, because there is creative skill involved from the time you frame the phot until you publish it.
Aug 11, 2023 13:35:46 #
If Ansel Adams was the photographer worthy of that name, he'd do a better job Straight Out Of Camera like a Real Photographer.
Aug 11, 2023 13:36:15 #
Architect1776 wrote:
When you add a fake image you must disclose it.
Otherwise you are lying to the world that it is a photo you captured at the lake.
Some take umbrage at calling it lying but it is. Might as well have AI add a fake sky, or better yet do the whole thing for you.
Otherwise you are lying to the world that it is a photo you captured at the lake.
Some take umbrage at calling it lying but it is. Might as well have AI add a fake sky, or better yet do the whole thing for you.
There is no “must disclose” of anything - the photos in question were enhanced - so what? If a painter adds in some clouds, or tweaks the colors of the oils he has committed to the canvas, is he/she required to provide a disclosure that at the time his/her easel was in place the colors he saw were different from those placed on the canvas or the cloud pattern painted into the sky?
If you don’t approve of editing (to whatever extent) in photos intended as art - then don’t apply those techniques to your own work. Others who choose to edit have zero obligation to cater to your request for “disclosure.”
Aug 11, 2023 13:38:23 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
If Ansel Adams was the photographer worthy of that name, he'd do a better job Straight Out Of Camera like a Real Photographer.
Ah, welcome back. We've missed your pithy comments.
Aug 11, 2023 13:40:01 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
If Ansel Adams was the photographer worthy of that name, he'd do a better job Straight Out Of Camera like a Real Photographer.
Aug 11, 2023 13:40:43 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
If Ansel Adams was the photographer worthy of that name, he'd do a better job Straight Out Of Camera like a Real Photographer.
Love your tongue in cheek.
Aug 11, 2023 13:41:05 #
Aug 11, 2023 13:47:48 #
Dbrow411
Loc: South Daytona, FL
I don't see any reason to describe any post work done unless you think there is a reason to do so. To me, using Photoshop or other image processing software is no different than darkroom techniques we used back in the wet photography days. The artistic presentation is all about the final image.
Aug 11, 2023 13:49:22 #
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Aug 11, 2023 14:14:50 #
Dbrow411 wrote:
Geez I hope your being sarcastic. 😁
"Quote Reply" works wonders......
Aug 11, 2023 14:23:48 #
Unless you are posting a photojournalistic related photo, you are posting your vision of "your art." Ansel Adams never attached a compendium of notes detailing what areas of the original photograph (as recorded by his cameras) were dodged or burned in the darkroom. Famous painters never disclosed what the original surroundings around the subjects they painted were really like compared to what they depicted on canvas.
Aug 11, 2023 14:26:24 #
Latsok wrote:
Unless you are posting a photojournalistic related photo, you are posting your vision of "your art." Ansel Adams never attached a compendium of notes detailing what areas of the original photograph (as recorded by his cameras) were dodged or burned in the darkroom. Famous painters never disclosed what the original surroundings around the subjects they painted were really like compared to what they depicted on canvas.
"This is my work. Take it or leave it."
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