Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY

Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the justice system in the US. Rapists, child abusers, murderers, armed robbers etc. rarely receive that kind of penalty.
Besides, you have to contend with that pesky Constitution first. 8-)

jolly1

You truly are a very sick puppy. You should see a Vet immediately. One thing is certain. You certainly don't know your Western History. Probably because you've seen too many T.V. Westerns. They never get history right, either.

tomo69 Loc: Uk

I knew ther was another arsehole in here and there you are

rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA

Excuse me if I misread this, but background checks ARE required for the purchase of a handgun, and YES there is a data base for such purchases. You cannot legally give or transfer a modern (after 1898) handgun to someone who has no firearms license without a background check through the NCIS
As far as having "data-bases" these things are easily corrupted with similar names, and people who report other people to authorities for vengeful retribution and other stuff.

tom kf4wol

Nope, but Televisions have got to go!!! duh????

!http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/12/13/study-child-dies-every-three-weeks-from-falling-television/

jolly1

Actually, Yes! There were many less killings in the "Wild West" than in the Modern West. Also, in those days women and children were respected, if a man deserved killing, it was quickly found to be legal, and if you killed one that didn't deserve to be killed, you were very quickly found guilty and hung until you were dead, dead, dead. . . . . .No sitting in prison for years, eating, sleeping, and watching television at taxpayer's expense.

caknutsen Loc: Seattle, WA

This turned out way longer than I had intended.

First and foremost, no family anywhere in the world should have to suffer a loss of a family member such as those from this most recent shooting. Or any other form of mass killing.

As for me, I presently own no guns, however, I was raise with them, was taught proper gun safety, and they were part of my life for 40 years. I am not against the right to bear arms, I am not against having background checks done as a matter of a screening protocol. I believe that it is fairly common knowledge that in the US a gun can be had through a number of not so proper ways.

That being said, I could not read all of the posts here, but there was a wide range of opinions from the US and abroad. I have a "Personal" opinion on the laws in the US, along with our Constitution.

Our Constitution is over 200 years old, our laws get modified slightly, we have Case Law that gets cited during trials. Law abiding citizens suffer personally, emotionally, and financially as a result of those that choose to run on the opposite of the law. Currently, if a person is arrested for a crime, I will use murder as an example, I will use a gun as the weapon in this example. The evidence is a clear video, eye witness statements, DNA evidence. The video shows a crime/shooting where the offender is clearly identifiable, witnesses accurately ID this person and what they said, DNA is left at the scene where the offender broke a glass case. So, here is my question/statement.

With all of this, why is it we hold a lengthy trial? A trial that costs us the tax payers a ton of money, even more if the offender is indigent and we provide him/her with their counsel at no cost to them. Then, a jury of his/her peers finds them guilty, they are sentenced to life in some states and death in others. There new accomidations are not the best but, the convict is provided 3-meals a day, medical care, exercise facilities. While outside we have a whole society that looks the other way at the homeless, but before you blast me at that statement, we have some people that have truly fallen on hard times and are trying to pull themselves back up, we have veterans that are on the streets with needs I mean after all they did serve our country, lets put all that money here. Sorry I got side tracked, then the convict has appeal rights, stays of execution, etc. back to my whole point.

With modern technology and indisputable facts, why do we waste so much money on the legal system now, especially regarding violent crimes and criminals. If, and only if our Constitution and laws were amended to reflect the present, and violent criminals or those even pondering the thought knew that with out a doubt their death would be imminent, and immediate upon sentencing will violent crime rates drop. Again, it's only my opinion, I am not in the legal field, not a convict, but I am exercising my freedom of speech.

Peace to all, and have a safe, happy, and enjoyable holiday.

My prayers are with those that have suffered such tragic losses both here and abroad.

tomo69 Loc: Uk

Maybe if you put your point across without your inane sarcasm people would listen more but as it is you act and sound like an arsehole

caknutsen Loc: Seattle, WA

Okay it was a much longer version of what jolly1 said.

sassman3629L Loc: South Florida

So TRUE!
Was it not this same shooter that shot his Father earlier in the day and then also shot his Mother at the school along with the children?
Our problem because some of us want to protect the rights of demented people must allow those of us who seem destined to commit evil to complete their destiny?

We have gun laws to take care of almost every situation in the U.S. We just don't always act in time prevent tragidies
of imense preportions.
Our Founders (from the UK) thought it important that the Right to bear arms important enough to make it No. Two in the Amendments to our Bill of Rights, right after Freedom of Speech! If We had lived under British Gun Control in 1776 we most likely would all still have that accent?

We are, after All, the only Country with a written Constitution that has kept us free since 1776 and apparently others keep trying to drag us back with them?

This shooter violated many laws in his actions so let's not try to penalize all those of us who don't go out shooting people and live within the laws of living in a Free society.

This shooter most likely has a history of mental conditions that by Law preclude gun ownership ie: "gun control", but, was allowed to slip through the cracks of our societies systems!?

Gun's don't kill people, People Kill People! The Ten Commandments were written even before there were guns!

I pray for all those who were touched by this tragic event and hope that God will bring peace to them and the entire World.
SR

jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ

If every law abiding citizen turned in their guns, the only people that would own them would be law enforcement, military, and criminals. Now you tell me, where were the law enforcement or military when the shooting started at the school? That's right! They can't be everywhere at all times, so the criminal has the advantage of doing what he wants, when he wants and to whomever he wants. Where would the United States of America be if all the citizens turned in our guns before the Revolutionary war? That's right! We wouldn't be Americans. Would we?

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

No, but you can help people who need it. In the 1980s federal funding for mental health care was eliminated. Since then individual states have cut back on funding for mental health care. Today there are not enough mental health professionals and facilities for those who need it.

sassman3629L Loc: South Florida

That's correct I believe we all are making a mistake calling this mental case a criminal which he was (most likely not) until he did the killing. He had mental problems!
I believe we must seperate the issues and place the fault where it belongs? He surely must have been giving of many warning signs as many of this type of person has done before this final act!
SR

I am PJ

Hi,
No they are British.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

There were less people also. I wonder what the per capita murder rate was then compared to today.