Guns: Just awful news from Newtown, Connecticut. My heart goes out to all the families, teachers and pupils who are having to come to terms with this appalling act of indiscriminate...

Bazamac Loc: Manchester, UK

Just awful news from Newtown, Connecticut. My heart goes out to all the families, teachers and pupils who are having to come to terms with this appalling act of indiscriminate murder. Any chance you guys might finally get around to putting the guns away?

Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA

Bazamac wrote:

Just awful news from Newtown, Connecticut. My heart goes out to all the families, teachers and pupils who are having to come to terms with this appalling act of indiscriminate murder. Any chance you guys might finally get around to putting the guns away?

Nope

Bazamac Loc: Manchester, UK

Pepper wrote:

Bazamac wrote:

Just awful news from Newtown, Connecticut. My heart goes out to all the families, teachers and pupils who are having to come to terms with this appalling act of indiscriminate murder. Any chance you guys might finally get around to putting the guns away?

Nope

Didn't think so. Sad. So sad.

dachs

I don't know the latest stats but there's more gun accidents a year than that in US. Doesn't make the childrens' needless suffering any more easy to take, but I guess we aren't going to change things over there.

Our UK Olympic pistol team have to train abroad, we're so strict, yet our shootings on the street have doubled in five years. We are not in a position to criticise.

We can and do sympathise, so sorry to all the parents

tim57064

Bazamac wrote:

Just awful news from Newtown, Connecticut. My heart goes out to all the families, teachers and pupils who are having to come to terms with this appalling act of indiscriminate murder. Any chance you guys might finally get around to putting the guns away?

This has been an appalling incident, my heart also goes out to the families involved.
Gun control is not the answer here because of the fact that if you want to get a gun, no matter whether it is legal or not,you can get one. I do not personally see the reason for someone to own an assault rifle. I myself do not have one nor have a need for one. A ban on assault weapons will not take care of the problem. They will still be out there no matter what. Anyone thinking so is fooled into thinking so.

Coolcameragirl Loc: Bradenton, FL

I only wish. I live 30 minutes from this shooting and my heart is broken for the families involved. My prayers go out to them. I would like to see the gun laws change.

Bazamac Loc: Manchester, UK

dachs wrote:

I don't know the latest stats but there's more gun accidents a year than that in US. Doesn't make the childrens' needless suffering any more easy to take, but I guess we aren't going to change things over there.

Our UK Olympic pistol team have to train abroad, we're so strict, yet our shootings on the street have doubled in five years. We are not in a position to criticise.

We can and do sympathise, so sorry to all the parents

Think you need to cite your sources for that - my understanding is that violent and, especially, gun related crime has been declining in the UK for several years. Our gun control laws were significantly tightened after Dunblane, and quite right too. If it inconveniences a few sportspeople I'm afraid that's a price worth paying to prevent a repetition of that dreadful day.

Deaths from guns are FAR higher in the US. How many more children have to die before some sanity in relation to guns is established in that country? For me it's a no-brainer. Yes, people kill people, but the almost unrestricted availability of such weapons can only make the killing power of people who choose to act in that way all the more murderously effective.

It's for the American people to decide, of course. We can only watch and wonder at the mentality of people who still think that their so-called 'right' to bear arms is more important than the lives of innocent children. And sympathise with those who have to deal with the trauma of tragedies such as this.

Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA

Not so sad, I live in the country and I hunt (clean and eat what I shoot). I've also been called upon to help eradicate some Coyotes that were killing the neighbors livestock, mostly young sheep. I guess guns have more than one purpose and it seems you've only been exposed to the ugly side of guns but they truly do have positive useful purposes and I don't think it fair or just that I should lose my rights because some abuse theirs. Would you have everyone give up their right to have a beer because someone else drank to many, got in a car and killed someone. People need to be held accountable for their own actions and not punished for the actions of others.

Bazamac Loc: Manchester, UK

tim57064 wrote:

quote=Bazamac Just awful news from Newtown, Conne... (show quote)

If other countries can manage gun control, why can't the USA? Not pretending its going to be easy but can wringing hands and doing nothing really be the only response?

Bazamac Loc: Manchester, UK

Pepper wrote:

Not so sad, I live in the country and I hunt (clea... (show quote)

No, I wouldn't want to stop people having a drink. But drinking is controlled by laws. If someone has a legitimate reason to have a gun, for pest control say, the there's no reason why they shouldn't, subject to strict licensing. That's the situation here in the UK and it seems to work pretty well.

Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA

We have gun laws and good ones, the problem is criminals don't give a rats patoot about the law. We just need to do a better job of enforcing the laws we already have.

Bazamac Loc: Manchester, UK

Pepper wrote:

We have gun laws and good ones, the problem is criminals don't give a rats patoot about the law. We just need to do a better job of enforcing the laws we already have.

Well obviously you know better than I. From this side of the Atlantic it doesn't look that way, tho. I doubt the US gun laws are as stringent as ours - and the gun lobby certainly sounds much louder, even from here.

Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA

I'm a country boy and I've owned guns my whole life (62 years) we practice gun safety and obey the law. I know that you'll find plenty on the other side of the issue right here in the USA and I understand but again it's not the law abiding citizen who's the problem and I'm not about to let the criminal decide what my rights are.

tim57064

Pepper wrote:

I'm a country boy and I've owned guns my whole life (62 years) we practice gun safety and obey the law. I know that you'll find plenty on the other side of the issue right here in the USA and I understand but again it's not the law abiding citizen who's the problem and I'm not about to let the criminal decide what my rights are.

My sentiments exactly!

Danilo Loc: Las Vegas

Murder is/has been illegal for quite some time. Why didn't that law prevent this horrific incident?