Guns (Page 11): Very good point! Alcohol and cars kill many more people than guns do. I have never heard anyone wanting to outlaw cars. And they tried it with alcohol. The constitution...

Festus Loc: North Dakota

Very good point! Alcohol and cars kill many more people than guns do. I have never heard anyone wanting to outlaw cars. And they tried it with alcohol. The constitution says it is a right to own a gun. Those that think outlawing guns would end this type of tragedy are as mentally deranged as those that commit them.

obeone

Its not about guns. If guns were not available it would be something else. High nitrogen content lawn fertilizer and diesel fuel would work, a.k.a Timothy McVey.

Latest reports say that many people knew this kid had serious problems.
We stopped funding for mental health issues about forty years ago. Now you can only get someone into a state hospital after they've done something really bad and then only for a short time. Then because of funding there is great pressure on the doctors to get them out of there as soon as possible.

ACLU says its a violation of personal rights to hold someone against their will.

KeithF199 Loc: Frisco, Texas

I would apply that same requirement for Driver's license, Pilot's License, child care center workers, postal workers, please who else should be screened?

stevenelson wrote:

Bazamac wrote:

Just awful news from Newtown, Connecticut. My heart goes out to all the families, teachers and pupils who are having to come to terms with this appalling act of indiscriminate murder. Any chance you guys might finally get around to putting the guns away?

I think everyone that owns or going to buy a gun should have to take a mmpi test[mental evaluation test]. And also let all teachers carry a gun. The inocent should be protected or be allowed to protect themselves.

tomo69 Loc: Uk

TimS wrote:

quote=tomo69 quote=TimS quote=tomo69 quote=Baz... (show quote)

All that said your still an arrogant arsehole people like hide behind your weapons because you can't fight any other way it's a cowards way out that suits you down to the ground you faggot

merlin Loc: Alexandria Indiana

We have gun laws too Now if you can find away to enforce those laws Maybe someone will listen to you. But it seems that you want to take the guns away from law abiding people let the real killings begin if that happens

Skip-M Loc: Phoenix AZ

tim57064 wrote:

Pepper wrote:

I'm a country boy and I've owned guns my whole life (62 years) we practice gun safety and obey the law. I know that you'll find plenty on the other side of the issue right here in the USA and I understand but again it's not the law abiding citizen who's the problem and I'm not about to let the criminal decide what my rights are.

My sentiments exactly!

Mine also, Skip

tomo69 Loc: Uk

merlin wrote:

We have gun laws too Now if you can find away to enforce those laws Maybe someone will listen to you. But it seems that you want to take the guns away from law abiding people let the real killings begin if that happens

Your so called law abiding people should not need guns it's part of your history it's about time you moved on

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

farnsworth52 wrote:

Have had rifles all my life. Have had children aro... (show quote)

Agreed.

TimS Loc: GA

I am PJ wrote:

quote=TimS quote=tdklex quote=TimS quote=I am ... (show quote)

You are correct. I just want to do away with someone. The only reason I have guns is because I want to kill somebody. No other reason whatsoever. Now, I do not know who that person is exactly but I can tell you what he/she will be doing when I shoot him/her. They would have made the very bad decision to forcibly break into my house, while I am there and within reach of my weapons, and pose a threat to me or my family.

That person - and that person only do I want to kill because I would rather THAT PERSON be dead than my wife or one of my kids.

Now if only there were a way to know that someone breaking into an obviously occupied house at night has no intention other than to score a glass of milk and leave then I would let them have the glass and not kill them. But the moment they mice towards our sleeping location I have to assume that their only desire is to cause harm to someone vice singing us a soothing song to help us go back to sleep.

I have weapons for home defense so I can kill an intruder who poses a threat. So other than shooting targets at my local range a couple times a month, I have guns for one purpose: to kill someone who wants to kill me or my family.

I am PJ

PatrickTheCop wrote:

I am PJ wrote:

Heart felt thoughts for all those affected by this... (show quote)

Your opinion that no one should have the "right" to bear arms is not the opinion of our founding fathers. Nor is it the opinion of the populace of this country at present, else the country would have repealed this amendment. It is not likely that America, as a whole, will join your opinion any time in the forseeable future, if ever.

Just because you have been vetted and deemed a fit and proper person to be a gun owner where you are does not mean that at some point you will not develop an mental defect, have an adverse "mental" reaction to some prescribed medication, become enraged over some issue affecting you or a family member and "snap" any of which will make you no longer a fit and proper person to own a gun. No I am not proposing any of these will happen to you. I am stating ANY of them are possible as it happens around the world daily.

What mechanism is in place where you are to INSTANTLY and IMMEDIATELY identify a person when they become affected in such a manner? What mechanism do you have in place that will then INSTANTLY and IMMEDIATELY remove guns from someone that finds themselves in this position? Oh, there is no such mechanism you say? Well there you have it.

Lastly, I am a firm believer in the simple philosophy that I do indded have a right to bear arms for protection. If I, a family member or any other innocent person is confronted by a physical attack I should have the absolute right of self defense through ALL and ANY means available.

quote=I am PJ Heart felt thoughts for all those a... (show quote)

I keep saying this, it is about control. This doesn't mean ban.
Can I ask a question.....seriously...if I had criminal convictions or suffered from depression or any other mental illness, what stops me going into Walmart (don't know if they sell firearms) and buying a nice S&W 38?

merlin Loc: Alexandria Indiana

We have gun laws too Now if you can find away to enforce those laws Maybe someone will listen to you. But it seems that you want to take the guns away from law abiding people let the real killings begin if that happens

PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North

tomo69 wrote:

merlin wrote:

We have gun laws too Now if you can find away to enforce those laws Maybe someone will listen to you. But it seems that you want to take the guns away from law abiding people let the real killings begin if that happens

Your so called law abiding people should not need guns it's part of your history it's about time you moved on

Your use of the term "so called" seems to say that we are not law abiding. Does it also imply that since the English do not have permission to own and carry guns that they ARE law abiding?

tomo69 Loc: Uk

PrairieSeasons wrote:

quote=tomo69 quote=merlin We have gun laws too N... (show quote)

Not at all its just you go as if its the end all an be all to own a gun if some breaks into my house which has happened I sort it out without the use of a weapon you should try it I agree guns have there use but not in the home

I am PJ

PrairieSeasons wrote:

quote=tomo69 quote=merlin We have gun laws too N... (show quote)

We can and do carry guns. Please also include the Welsh, Scottish, Irish and Falkland Islands etc. it's easier to say British, ;)

dzs1945 Loc: Lancaster, Pa

I am a hunter and own about 5 guns. I am generally against more government intervention. However I would vote to ban the 223 bushmaster that may have been used. Who needs that to hunt????????