Local Victim of Titan Disaster (Page 4): Thanks for the info.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

riderxlx wrote:

Linda, since it was a private 'experimental' devic... (show quote)

Thanks for the info.

riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas

josquin1 wrote:

Why would a parent risk the life of their child in an uncertified vessel? Just ridiculous and tragic.

Ok I'm back in the house now.
So, your question is ? Well it depends on the age of the child. IF YOU as a loving parent show them all the logistics about their interest in an adventure like the Titan thing. Like ? well, what would you do ?
Well the guy who did what he did was was taking a risk for sure but his son DID not have to take a ride in it.
Ok ,they guy spent a quarter of a million dollars, Half a million including his son.
I understand from I have read, the son wanted to bond with his father. Well ?
Ok you go from here.
bruce

williejoha

Thank God we live in a country where you are allowed to do STUPID things as long as you do not hurt anybody else. My gripe is, that when people do STUPID stuff such as going to countries that are on the travel list or any other dumb stuff, they expect us the taxpayer to rescue your stupid ass. JMO
WJH

therwol Loc: USA

BebuLamar wrote:

Do whatever they want. They are rich people but who paid for the $1.5 Million trying to rescue them? The country is out of money and about to default on debt. Don't need to waste money on those rich people indulged themselves.

The Coast Guard doesn't and can't legally charge for any rescue operation. The law would have to be changed for that to happen. I used to live on the Gulf Coast, and a friend stationed there in the Coast Guard said that they would get distress calls during hurricanes, and they would have to go out and deal with 60 foot waves to attempt to rescue people. It's their job. It doesn't matter how rich or stupid people are. They respond when called.

BebuLamar

therwol wrote:

The Coast Guard doesn't and can't legally charge for any rescue operation. The law would have to be changed for that to happen. I used to live on the Gulf Coast, and a friend stationed there in the Coast Guard said that they would get distress calls during hurricanes, and they would have to go out and deal with 60 foot waves to attempt to rescue people. It's their job. It doesn't matter how rich or stupid people are. They respond when called.

That is why I do not like what these rich people did. Otherwise it's their lives I don't care.

josquin1 Loc: Massachusetts

riderxlx wrote:

Ok I'm back in the house now. br So, your questio... (show quote)

Find a safer vessel. The son's life is gone along with all its potential. And there is his aunt who said he didn't want to go but felt obligated to his father. So in essence the father murdered his son. The young man is all that I really care about. The brain is not fully developed yet and so the young man could not really make an informed mature decision yet. That is why. Who cares if he is a legal adult. There is legal and then there is ethical.

therwol Loc: USA

josquin1 wrote:

Find a safer vessel. The son's life is gone along with all its potential. And there is his aunt who said he didn't want to go but felt obligated to his father. So in essence the father murdered his son. The young man is all that I really care about. The brain is not fully developed yet and so the young man could not really make an informed mature decision yet. That is why. Who cares if he is a legal adult. There is legal and then there is ethical.

I wonder if a Google search of safety concerns about this vessel before the descent would have turned up what we now know. I would think that anyone considering getting in it would do some research beforehand. Murder implies intent. I think this was a case of ignorance and trust where it shouldn't have been given, and the consequences were tragic.

Flyerace Loc: Mt Pleasant, WI

I read an article that quoted the CEO as saying he took shortcuts when building that sub. If I had heard that, I would have backed out immediately. What a terrible tragedy. (I know, I know, there were lots of people that drowned on a migrant boat in the Mediterranean last week, too.) Both are horrible and both were unnecessary.

pumakat

You are correct, Bruce.
It's all about freedom to make one's own decisions. Stupid or not.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

rcarol wrote:

The one in Hawaii only goes to a hundred feet or so and is certified as I understand it. That is far less stressful on the hull than the Titan.

Definitely less stressful. The one I was in had propellers to push it down. If they failed, it would no longer stay down.

sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey

When people go exploring on a mountain or undersea they should be required to take out an insurance policy. The policy pays for a rescue or to retrieve a body.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

sueyeisert wrote:

When people go exploring on a mountain or undersea they should be required to take out an insurance policy. The policy pays for a rescue or to retrieve a body.

I cannot understand why people climb mountains and explore caves or underwater caves. I've climbed "hills," done scuba diving, and been in caves, but not to extremes. Mt. Everest and K2 have hundreds of bodies on them. Each one represents dozens of people at home who are missing a friend or a relative. Those bodies, like many in caves, will never be retrieved.

alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ

therwol wrote:

The Coast Guard doesn't and can't legally charge for any rescue operation. The law would have to be changed for that to happen. I used to live on the Gulf Coast, and a friend stationed there in the Coast Guard said that they would get distress calls during hurricanes, and they would have to go out and deal with 60 foot waves to attempt to rescue people. It's their job. It doesn't matter how rich or stupid people are. They respond when called.

The Coast Guard doesn't charge, but they do spend taxpayers dollars. Why are they even envolved in another country? Personally I think the estates of the adults involved in stupid extreme adventures should be charged for the rescue or recovery or the waste of time and resources.

BebuLamar

alberio wrote:

The Coast Guard doesn't charge, but they do spend taxpayers dollars. Why are they even envolved in another country? Personally I think the estates of the adults involved in stupid extreme adventures should be charged for the rescue or recovery or the waste of time and resources.

Yeah I can't afford my medications and yet they take my tax dollars to pay for the rescue of them rich people. They can do what they want but don't incur any cost to the poor tax payers.

Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio

riderxlx wrote:

Yes, I had read that the son was terrified of going on that but he wanted to bond with his father. There must have been some disconnect with them as father and son but he chose to go and I have a heart felt sympathy for him because he did it out of love. I do not know about their traditions, but he did make his decision, I wish he had not.

The aunt said he was terrified, his mother said he was terribly excited but was not able to go because it was supposed to be his mum and dad who were going. She gave up that seat so that he could join his dad.

Therefore, we don't really know if he was excited or terrified. Only his mother really knows.