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Jun 11, 2023 17:07:51   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Scruples wrote:
Little Damn Dots
Can’t Do Much!

I almost poked a hole in my screen!

Whoops, glad I didn't use larger dots!

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Jun 11, 2023 20:14:15   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Well Sony has had partnerships with several smartphone makers for a long time, supplying the image sensors and mirrorless cameras for millions of smartphones around the world.

https://www.sammobile.com/news/sony-extends-lead-over-samsung-in-cmos-image-sensor-market/#:~:text=In%20terms%20of%20market%20share,a%20market%20share%20of%2051.6%25.

(quote from 2022 article) "In terms of market share in the third quarter of 2022, Sony and Samsung were followed by Omnivision, Onsemi, and GalaxyCore.

According to a market report by research firm Omdia (via The Elec), Sony was the leading CMOS image sensor supplier in Q3, with a market share of 51.6%.

Samsung was the 2nd-largest provider, capturing only 15.6% of the market. Omnivision, Onsemi, and GalaxyCore secured 9.7%, 7.0%, and 4.0%, respectively. The sixth place was occupied by SK Hynix, which had a share of 3.8%.

In mid-2021, Samsung had a CMOS image sensor market share of 29%, whereas Sony held 46% of the segment. It seems as though Sony continues to widen the gap between it and the runner-up, and market watchers believe this trend will continue.

Sony is expected to supply Apple with CMOS image sensors for the upcoming iPhone 15 series, which may propel it even further in the lead." (end quote)

Apple's millions of top iPhones including its iPhone 15 series do have Sony image sensors and Sony mirrorless cameras in them .

Not surprising that Canon wants in on that huge market. But Sony and others wont just move over and let Canon take their smartphone partners without a fight.

Maybe Canon will start to make its own smartphones like Sony does with its Sony Xperia series of smartphones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5SM0jv_T6k

https://www.bestchoice.com/comparison/sony-xperia-smartphone?targetid=dsa-34723274202&matchtype=&device=c&campaignid=18195123110&creative=618817181886&adgroupid=141385907660&feeditemid=&loc_physical_ms=9027222&loc_interest_ms=&network=g&devicemodel=&placement=&keyword=$&target=&aceid=&adposition=&trackid=us_all_versus_dsa_1_1&mId=407-132-4411&gclid=CjwKCAjw4ZWkBhA4EiwAVJXwqWuq3KntbHgR3zGUarGLjxZDTrGi7b6g2xAWeC9OXgV09dtRqU68YRoCLc0QAvD_BwE

Cheers and best to you.
Well Sony has had partnerships with several smartp... (show quote)


Maybe, just maybe, the AI bots have informed those that are listening that the future markets as well as todays markets are more geared towards phone cams...( Please, lets not get the crazies going with more comparisons ). I am betting on MY i and dropping the phone moniker... about time !

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Jun 12, 2023 05:59:32   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
MrBob wrote:
Canon Rumors posted that Canon was investigating partnering with a cell phone manufacturer... No comment from me as it would just be an uninformed opinion. Any hogs see any upside to any of this or only a FAR OUT rumor to get clickbait like this...?


Would be a smart move to put some Android OS into a camera and give it phone manipulation features as well as far faster transfer rates perhaps.
It would make sense to those who grew up with cell phones, allow greater editing and other phone features.
And perhaps full cell capabilities.

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Jun 12, 2023 07:58:07   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
Scruples wrote:
I am indifferent. Most cameras are fine the way they are. Adding more to a phone is going to confuse most people. Besides the manual being impossible to read, the learning curve would be way past Saturn. I truly think that the major camera companies should make and price their cameras to be affordable with the general public.


making them affordable is a catch-22. People want more and more function and seemingly bigger pixels and sales verifies this. No way that will make them affordable. OTOH, there are affordable, or at least cheaper, but sadly lack the quality. You want high quality and cheap? :)

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Jun 12, 2023 10:22:34   #
jackpinoh Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
 
I suspect Canon is concerned that Sony, which produces a cell phone, could easily migrate advanced cell phone processing features into their cameras. Canon wants to be able to respond to such a move.

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Jun 12, 2023 10:27:19   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
jackpinoh wrote:
I suspect Canon is concerned that Sony, which produces a cell phone, could easily migrate advanced cell phone processing features into their cameras. Canon wants to be able to respond to such a move.


That is a pretty thoughtful thought... Thanks

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Jun 12, 2023 10:52:09   #
riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas
 
MrBob wrote:
Canon Rumors posted that Canon was investigating partnering with a cell phone manufacturer... No comment from me as it would just be an uninformed opinion. Any hogs see any upside to any of this or only a FAR OUT rumor to get clickbait like this...?


Hell if I know or even care, just what we need next, a mirror less camera/phone so we can jabber while taking photos.
Bruce.

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Jun 12, 2023 11:04:06   #
gwilliams6
 
jackpinoh wrote:
I suspect Canon is concerned that Sony, which produces a cell phone, could easily migrate advanced cell phone processing features into their cameras. Canon wants to be able to respond to such a move.


There is a whole other current UHH thread on T&C Northrup predicting that Sony will do exactly that and destroy Canon. I have no idea if that is or could ever be true, but folks are talking about it.

Cheers and best to you.

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Jun 12, 2023 11:26:19   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
Simuler to trying to add $$$stuff to a 6 cylinder engine to make it as fast and powerful as a V8.
I finally dumped it an put in a REAL V8.

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Jun 12, 2023 14:03:58   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
riderxlx wrote:
Hell if I know or even care, just what we need next, a mirror less camera/phone so we can jabber while taking photos.
Bruce.


Judging by what our future leaders are doing... it seems plausible; of course the AI bots will be censoring and altering any offensive talk. ( Kind of like self-correct )

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Jun 12, 2023 16:05:28   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
Ah fond memories from the deep past. Spent grade school years Lookout Mtn. TN but visited and vacationed in Alabama section, Mentone and all that.

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Jun 12, 2023 17:43:28   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
revhen wrote:
Ah fond memories from the deep past. Spent grade school years Lookout Mtn. TN but visited and vacationed in Alabama section, Mentone and all that.


Mentone is just up the road a couple miles... Old Mentone Grand Hotel burned down a year or so ago... So tragic.

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Jun 12, 2023 19:00:36   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
I do believe there will be a market for a High Performance Smartphone/Pro leaning Camera combination.
Possibly a Pancake Lenses.
Remember, Smartphones ALREADY have GPS, Communications links, GPU,
Processing.

Comments?

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Jun 12, 2023 20:43:30   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
delder wrote:
I do believe there will be a market for a High Performance Smartphone/Pro leaning Camera combination.
Possibly a Pancake Lenses.
Remember, Smartphones ALREADY have GPS, Communications links, GPU,
Processing.

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AND the " missing Link " will be....? Roll the drums !

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Jun 12, 2023 21:34:20   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
Built in INSTANT Cloud Communciations.
Pictures automaticaly uploaded in real time.
Conficating the Camera/Chip will NOT delete the photos...

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