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May 28, 2023 17:15:28   #
flycaster Loc: Lake Bluff, IL
 
I'm going to throw out another pitch. Why not consider Photoshop Elements or Express? Elements is not that hard to learn and is a versatile program. Express is more basic than Elements, but may be your cup of tea. Just my five (!) cents.

Chuck

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May 28, 2023 17:15:33   #
mffox Loc: Avon, CT
 
Tom:

I'm 86, and got a late start into photography. From the outset I have always shot in RAW + JPEG, and I process in Photoshop Elements Camera RAW. I use my JPEGS to cull out the poor shots quickly, the rest are keepers. I think you'll regret giving up RAW.

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May 28, 2023 17:21:34   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
I'm looking for u tube tutorials for elements. What I'm planning to do is watch on my laptop and have the practice photo on desk top
Beats shifting back and forth

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May 28, 2023 17:23:45   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
To answer your question briefly, no you are not too old to learn LR/PS or whatever else you decide you want to learn. The real question is, do you want to learn it? I'm 75 and becoming more proficient with both programs and many external plugins all the time. It is a bit unsettling when you first transition from jpeg to raw, for some reason, but you could always shoot both till you reach a comfort level. Don't worry about trying to learn everything before your trip, but consider capturing your trip in both formats and using those photos as your entry into the world of LR/PS when you get home. It is annoying to fuss with new technology while traveling. The $10 a month program is way more than $10 worth of fun every month. I'd pay more, but don't tell Adobe.

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May 28, 2023 17:45:13   #
Dennis833 Loc: Australia
 
You're never too old to learn anything but I would recommend you trial Luminar Neo as it's much easier to learn than Lightroom or PS.

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May 28, 2023 17:54:18   #
Bruce T Loc: Michigan
 
Hi. I’m 68. I started with film back in 1975.
It amazes me that people call themselves photographers when they don’t understand the relationship between shutter speed, aperture and ISO speed.
I use to shoot EVERYTHING in manual…there was only manual

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May 28, 2023 17:57:43   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
You could also walk to work but most drive.
I use technology to my advantage and knowing the exposure triangle helps pick the auto you pick

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May 28, 2023 18:11:37   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Sunsetpar wrote:
Hi friends. I enjoy my daily dose of Ugly Hedgehog, and value the expertise, opinions, and humor I find here. I have a dilemma, and would appreciate your thoughts. Bottom line...am I too old (age 70) to learn, use, and benefit from Lightroom? Put another way, should I shoot RAW + JPEG or just JPEG on my upcoming (mid-August 2023) trip to Brazil to shoot wildlife? A little background-- following a less than stellar photography performance on a trip to Costa Rica this past February, I vowed to improve my skills, and equipment, in an attempt to better deal with low-light (and other light challenges) photography in the wild. To this end, I acquired a Nikon D500 and a 500mm prime lens (the cheap one!) and have been practicing every day to shoot in manual mode, especially in low light. I feel that I am making progress, so I started looking ahead to my trip to Brazil, and the nuts and bolts of shooting and processing the photos I anticipate taking. As I sit here this morning, I am overwhelmed at the prospect of learning Lightroom (or some other PP program) prior to my trip, and am starting to question whether I should even try. After several hours of research (including in the post-processing forum) my mind is boggled. Heck, I am not even sure if I should try to use the Classic version or the cloud version. Right now my gut feeling is that JPEG images are more than sufficient for my needs (I have a website/blog that I created and maintain for my grandchildren and other friends who are interested in archaeology and birds), and I should devote my time to just taking the best JPEG images that I can at point of capture. I feel that I still have most of my wits about me, but I find myself doubting that I have sufficient gray matter to shoot and process RAW. What do you think this old man should do? (PS- attached is a "practice" photo I took a few days ago at a local park on a cloudy day)
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Nice bird image!

No, you're not too old. Install Lightroom Classic on your Mac or Windows PC. If you have an iPad, install the cloudy Lightroom on it. Otherwise, stick with Classic. Also install Photoshop, which comes with the $9.99/month subscription.

Learning LrC is relatively easy if you watch a lot of videos and just sit down with it and PLAY. Whether you work from a raw file, or a JPEG, you cannot modify the original. It stays intact. LrC stores instructions in the catalog that contain the "changes" you see as you adjust the proxy images you see on screen. The changes are baked into exported files, prints, books, and web postings. You can make an infinite number of virtual files, and modify each of them differently, for different uses.

The Develop module in Lightroom Classic uses the same Adobe Camera Raw editing engine as Lightroom, Photoshop, and Bridge. You can play with the sliders however you wish, to see their effects. Stop when you like what you see.

If you adjust color and tones of images, you will soon learn that you MUST calibrate and profile your monitor. This requires a kit from Datacolor or Calibrite or X-Rite, consisting of a "puck" to read the screen color and software to display patches of color for the puck to read. The software helps you calibrate the monitor using front-panel controls, and once calibrated, the software will create a profile for the monitor that allows your computer operating system to match various devices to the monitor for accurate viewing. Done correctly, calibration and profiling give you "What I see on my monitor is what ships from the lab, or drops out of my printer" color.

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May 28, 2023 19:45:33   #
Bluefish Loc: Berks County, PA
 
Sunsetpar wrote:
Hi friends. I enjoy my daily dose of Ugly Hedgehog, and value the expertise, opinions, and humor I find here. I have a dilemma, and would appreciate your thoughts. Bottom line...am I too old (age 70) to learn, use, and benefit from Lightroom? Put another way, should I shoot RAW + JPEG or just JPEG on my upcoming (mid-August 2023) trip to Brazil to shoot wildlife? A little background-- following a less than stellar photography performance on a trip to Costa Rica this past February, I vowed to improve my skills, and equipment, in an attempt to better deal with low-light (and other light challenges) photography in the wild. To this end, I acquired a Nikon D500 and a 500mm prime lens (the cheap one!) and have been practicing every day to shoot in manual mode, especially in low light. I feel that I am making progress, so I started looking ahead to my trip to Brazil, and the nuts and bolts of shooting and processing the photos I anticipate taking. As I sit here this morning, I am overwhelmed at the prospect of learning Lightroom (or some other PP program) prior to my trip, and am starting to question whether I should even try. After several hours of research (including in the post-processing forum) my mind is boggled. Heck, I am not even sure if I should try to use the Classic version or the cloud version. Right now my gut feeling is that JPEG images are more than sufficient for my needs (I have a website/blog that I created and maintain for my grandchildren and other friends who are interested in archaeology and birds), and I should devote my time to just taking the best JPEG images that I can at point of capture. I feel that I still have most of my wits about me, but I find myself doubting that I have sufficient gray matter to shoot and process RAW. What do you think this old man should do? (PS- attached is a "practice" photo I took a few days ago at a local park on a cloudy day)
Hi friends. I enjoy my daily dose of Ugly Hedgeho... (show quote)


If you think you’re too old, you’re too old.

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May 28, 2023 19:55:58   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
Well, I am physically old enough to be your daddy. I was in college when you were born. I do my best with a Canon 80D mostly with the great 18-135 USM lens and Corel's Paint Shop Pro. Maybe not professional level but more than adequate to produce greatly appreciated shots.

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May 28, 2023 20:07:36   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
I ain't the age it's the attitude. Don't give upper you will die.

PS I'm 91 and spent 4 1/2 hours shooting Cincodemayo day shooting for the newspaper (they were short on coverage and I do it part time)

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May 28, 2023 20:38:51   #
gwilliams6
 
Picture Taker wrote:
I ain't the age it's the attitude. Don't give upper you will die.

PS I'm 91 and spent 4 1/2 hours shooting Cincodemayo day shooting for the newspaper (they were short on coverage and I do it part time)



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May 28, 2023 21:19:06   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Picture Taker wrote:
I ain't the age it's the attitude. Don't give upper you will die.

PS I'm 91 and spent 4 1/2 hours shooting Cincodemayo day shooting for the newspaper (they were short on coverage and I do it part time)


Yeah, I wanna be shot dead by a jealous husband at the age of 109...

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May 28, 2023 21:36:32   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
burkphoto wrote:
Yeah, I wanna be shot dead by a jealous husband at the age of 109...


...so young...

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May 28, 2023 22:55:20   #
ckescher
 
Hi Tom, I read your comments and can only think I could have written the same thing. I also have a D500 and I have paired it with 3 lenses. Rokinon 14 mm, Nikon 16-80 and Tamron 100-400. I am headed to Norway to photograph the Northern Lights. I also don’t know how to post process. I shoot in Raw and JPEG. There are some really good suggestions here from some experienced photographers. I don’t even know what some of their abbreviations mean! I just know taking photographs makes me happy. I am continuing to practice low light photography and how to change my settings quickly in low light. The camera itself is a complicated piece of equipment. I keep reminding myself to just breathe. Practice until it feels like muscle memory. Don’t sweat learning PP now, concentrate on what you are doing! Which is some lovely work. You will have lots of time when you return.

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