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Defining the "Green Zone"in photography, by using Ayn Rand's rules for all complete definitions.
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May 25, 2023 05:14:30   #
riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas
 
Shooter41 wrote:
All of my definitions must explain the genus and the differentia of any concept I define. My genus's óf any given concept being defined explains what group a given concept falls into. My differentiae of any given concept being defined separates out the concept from all others in their group.
The genus of the photographic concept "Green Zone" is a photographic technique that narrows the digital range of exposure of a given image to the middle range to afford the most detail possible to the number of pixels recorded.
The differentia of the photographic concept "Green Zone" involves,
(1) placing your modern camera on full auto whereby the camera chooses the ideal aperture, shutter speed and ISO for a given location and lighting situation to maximize details.
(2) adding additional light making the finest detail possible through techniques like fill flash in order to be able to create images at a low ISO to avoid digital "noise" that distracts from enjoying fine details.
(3) always recording images in RAW files as opposed to JPEG etc. so as to capture the maximum number of pixels available for a given exposure range to allow maximum capturing of the image details available to edit with a program like Photoshop or Lightroom.
Shooter41
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Uh ? Ok.

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May 25, 2023 05:29:07   #
User ID
 
luvmypets wrote:
I agree with ORPilot.

I am the photographer, I make the decisions that will create the outcome I want for the photo. The camera doesn't read my mind; it doesn't know how much depth of field I want or how fast or slow I want the shutter speed for the action. If the camera is making the choices then it's not going to give the results I want.

Utilizing Auto, Shutter Priority or Aperture Priority can be a great assist but the camera should not be in control. It is the tool we are the artist.

Also, I don't want to spend hours on a computer trying to correct what I could have done with the camera.

Dodie
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You can only wish that you make the decisions.

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May 25, 2023 06:42:00   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Retired CPO wrote:
Get over yourself!!



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May 25, 2023 07:31:31   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Retired CPO wrote:
Get over yourself!!


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May 25, 2023 07:35:51   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
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May 25, 2023 07:53:34   #
Lagoonguy Loc: New Smyrna Beach, FL
 
I only looked at this because Ann Rand’s name was invoked. Seems like reverse logic to me. Use your camera as you please.

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May 25, 2023 07:55:53   #
doclrb
 
Retired CPO wrote:
Get over yourself!!





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May 25, 2023 08:05:09   #
Shooter41 Loc: Wichita, KS
 
Architect1776 wrote:
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Dear Architect1776...While using the Green Zone to enhance detail, I forgot to mention that your light reading has to be of just the subject and not the entire image for maximum detail. Shooter41

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May 25, 2023 08:32:29   #
Shooter41 Loc: Wichita, KS
 
Lagoonguy wrote:
I only looked at this because Ann Rand’s name was invoked. Seems like reverse logic to me. Use your camera as you please.


Dear Lagoonguy...I loved and respected Ayn Rand, her intellect and her contributions to our knowledge, as well as you appear to. I attended her lectures at Ford Hall Forum as well as her final tribute dinner and sat close to her during the meal. You needn't tell me "Use your camera as you please." Your permission is not required. I enjoyed making images in manual mode as well as using the green zone technique in order to determine which gave me the greatest detail in the specific case of my A7R4 mirrorless camera. (As I'm sure you know, different cameras give different results using the green zone.) I would like to share with you that I don't use what Ayn Rand taught me to order other persons around or give them commands. Why do you hold that it is reverse logic to make the comparison between shooting on manual mode and green zone technique to confirm which is best for one's specific camera? Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Shooter41 (randfan)

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May 25, 2023 08:43:26   #
Shooter41 Loc: Wichita, KS
 
User ID wrote:
You can only wish that you make the decisions.


Dear User ID...As the photographer who makes all the decisions as opposed to shooting in the green zone, "How do you narrow the digital range of exposure to create greater detail working with RAW files, while only shooting in manual mode with your specific modern camera?" Thank you for your thoughts. Shooter41

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May 25, 2023 08:46:50   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
User ID wrote:
"Number of pixels" ? "Raw as opposed to jpeg" ? "Green zone is a technique" ? etc etc etc. Toadall gobbeldegook, a post that couldve been written by an AI bot thaz having a bad hair day.


This made my day.

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May 25, 2023 08:52:42   #
wmurnahan Loc: Bloomington IN
 
ORpilot wrote:
correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds like you let the camera take all photos in full auto mode and assume that it is always correct for the scene. Then you adjust everything in P P to correct for your vision of the scene ? I and many other photographers prefer to shoot the scene as closely to the correct exposure by using all the controls available on the camera prior to making the final exposure. We therefore minimize any PP if needed at all. Yes, you will always get an image in Full Auto but it may not be the best possible image.
correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds like you l... (show quote)


"where the camera chooses the ideal" almost made me spit up my tea laughing. We all know if you want to catch a bird in flight, the camera does not know that, it will give you the programed exposure for a set reading and the flight will most likely be blurred.

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May 25, 2023 08:58:03   #
Shooter41 Loc: Wichita, KS
 
Architect1776 wrote:
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Dear Architect1776...If I narrow the exposure range to the middle and shoot RAW files with fill flash, I get more details. Shooter41

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May 25, 2023 08:58:10   #
wmurnahan Loc: Bloomington IN
 
Didn't know Ayn Rand was a photographer?

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May 25, 2023 08:59:21   #
Shooter41 Loc: Wichita, KS
 
wmurnahan wrote:
"where the camera chooses the ideal" almost made me spit up my tea laughing. We all know if you want to catch a bird in flight, the camera does not know that, it will give you the programed exposure for a set reading and the flight will most likely be blurred.


Dear wmurnahan...EXACTLY!

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