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May 14, 2023 11:21:07   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Carl1024 wrote:
I have all the price values but don't how to start it, should i go BIN or BIN/Offers.
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Keep a few. They're be worth something in 75 years.

bwa

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May 14, 2023 12:40:48   #
joemcl1
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Why not just reverse-engineer the process you follow when buying camera equipment?

1, You find an online or physical source.
2, You find both a description of the item and pictures of the item. Or, handle the item physically.
3, You find a price and the accepted payment method(s).
4, You review the sale terms, including the shipping method, cost and warranty and / or return method, if any.

Then, you personally decide if you want to pay that price for that equipment under those terms. To go into business to sell equipment, there too is your set of actions / decisions to be documented and presented to potential customers on your selected selling platform.

Film cameras can be a bit harder to sell. Do they need a battery to even confirm they work, or even to confirm they turn on? When did you personally last use each specific body? Do you have recent developed film from each specific body that demonstrates accurate functionality? The risk of buying something broken is pretty high, lowering the resale value of these bodies, especially if sold as-is with no warranty or return option.

You may find the cost of shipping is higher than the value of the film body, making the entire exercise futile. You may instead find the value of the lenses, even the MF lenses, have much higher value today than any of the film bodies, as those film-era lenses can be mounted to digital mirrorless bodies.
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May 14, 2023 12:58:08   #
jcboy3
 
Carl1024 wrote:
I have all the price values but don't how to start it, should i go BIN or BIN/Offers.
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I nearly always do BIN/Offers. But I am usually motivated to sell. I also set an lower limit on offers, to avoid lowball, and can see whether an offer has come from someone that has been trying to lowball.

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May 14, 2023 17:09:37   #
baer
 
What cameras are you selling and how much for them?
Thanks,
Baer

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May 14, 2023 18:50:22   #
Carl1024 Loc: Kaneohe, HI 96744
 
Canon T-90 @$200/offer, Contax G2@ $1400, Canon F-100 @ 120/offer, Nikon F4 @ $95/offer, & the Canon EOS 7D @ $200/offer. Both covers l/s on the 7D, have broken off dew 2 age?

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May 14, 2023 21:40:45   #
baer
 
Thanks very much!!
Baer

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May 14, 2023 21:57:52   #
Carl1024 Loc: Kaneohe, HI 96744
 
you're welcome

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May 15, 2023 08:13:55   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Beware of the politicians who claim they will make film the new standard!!!

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May 15, 2023 08:17:08   #
BebuLamar
 
dpullum wrote:
Beware of the politicians who claim they will make film the new standard!!!


I would benefit from that.

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May 15, 2023 09:42:16   #
Robin Dessureau
 
I would check with eBay on used camera values, I have purchased several used like new with little use for really low prices from $25-100 with lenses prime and zoom that were over hundreds of dollars new, certain brands retain more values, but as digital and smartphones have been around for a while now and gotten better the longer you wait the less they are worth. I own a couple Mamiya 645 bodies with meter prisms, extra lenses, flash-handle that are in great shape and all working condition, but to sell them now would be a shame I would rather use them on my digital cameras with manual adapters.

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May 15, 2023 12:15:34   #
rck281 Loc: Overland Park, KS
 
In my experience, if you use BIN/Offers, you will get a lot of low ball offers - less than half your asking price. But by doing counter offers, you have a chance of getting it sold. Get ready to take a beating on price.

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May 15, 2023 12:57:17   #
gwilliams6
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Why not just reverse-engineer the process you follow when buying camera equipment?

1, You find an online or physical source.
2, You find both a description of the item and pictures of the item. Or, handle the item physically.
3, You find a price and the accepted payment method(s).
4, You review the sale terms, including the shipping method, cost and warranty and / or return method, if any.

Then, you personally decide if you want to pay that price for that equipment under those terms. To go into business to sell equipment, there too is your set of actions / decisions to be documented and presented to potential customers on your selected selling platform.

Film cameras can be a bit harder to sell. Do they need a battery to even confirm they work, or even to confirm they turn on? When did you personally last use each specific body? Do you have recent developed film from each specific body that demonstrates accurate functionality? The risk of buying something broken is pretty high, lowering the resale value of these bodies, especially if sold as-is with no warranty or return option.

You may find the cost of shipping is higher than the value of the film body, making the entire exercise futile. You may instead find the value of the lenses, even the MF lenses, have much higher value today than any of the film bodies, as those film-era lenses can be mounted to digital mirrorless bodies.
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I must agree here with Paul.

Additionally "working fine" with any SLR or film camera with a older mechanical shutter isn't enough. You need to test the shutter for speed accuracy as over time older SLRs shutters can slow down as parts wear and lubricants dry out, and that can through off exposures. You need to make some test photos to show the buyer that the shutter speeds are still within range of their settings. Not as big a deal with negative film with a bit more latitude, but it can be a problem shooting transparencies that have little room for exposure inaccuracies.

A case in point, years ago I was doing a magazine cover article shoot at the Daytona Rolex 24 hours Endurance Race on Porsche Racing Legend driver , the late Al Holbert (five Time IMSA Champ, Five Time Dayton 24 hr. winner, Three Time LeMans 24hr winner), using a couple of SLR film cameras shooting transparencies. Little did I know that the shutter in one of my Canon SLRs had slowed down, and wasn't giving me the actual fast shutter speeds as set. Everything was working and sounding fine (remember no chimping review with film).

When I got the transparencies back from processing, all my photos with that unknowingly slower shutter were overexposed and unusable. Fortunately my other Canon SLR's shutter was fine and I had enough shots to make the magazine spread and no one in the public was the wiser, but some of my best shots of cars against the Florida sunset were blown out and unusable, Sure enough Canon repair had to repair that shutter.

So I personally would not buy a used SLR and/or rangefinder film camera without knowing the shutter was within proper tolerances of its set shutter speeds, even it is working and sounds right. And as a seller, unless you are selling "as-is", it is the responsible thing to check on that.

Cheers and best to you.

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May 15, 2023 12:59:39   #
Carl1024 Loc: Kaneohe, HI 96744
 
every ounce-in-awhile, cameras do get a run-thru & proved working still

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May 15, 2023 13:01:08   #
BebuLamar
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
I must agree here with Paul.

Additionally "working fine" with any SLR or film camera with a older mechanical shutter isn't enough. You need to test the shutter for speed accuracy as over time older SLRs shutters can slow down as parts wear and lubricants dry out, and that can through off exposures. You need to make some test photos to show the buyer that the shutter speeds are still within range of their settings. Not as big a deal with negative film with a bit more latitude, but it can be a problem shooting transparencies that have little room for exposure inaccuracies.

A case in point, years ago I was doing a magazine cover article shoot at the Daytona Rolex 24 hours Endurance Race on Porsche Racing Legend driver , the late Al Holbert , using a couple of SLR film cameras shooting transparencies. Little did I know that the shutter in one of my Canon SLRs had slowed down, and wasn't giving me the actual fast shutter speeds as set. Everything was working and sounding fine (remember no chimping review with film).

When I got the transparencies back from processing, all the photos with that slower shutter were overexposed and unusable. Fortunately my other Canon SLR's shutter was fine and I had enough shots to make the magazine spread and no one in the public was the wiser, but some of my best shots of cars against the Florida sunset were blown out and unusable, Sure enough Canon repair had to repair that shutter.

So I personally would not buy a used SLR and/or rangefinder film camera without knowing the shutter was within proper tolerances of its set shutter speeds, even it is working and sounds right. And as a seller, unless you are selling "as-is", it is the responsible thing to check on that.

Cheers and best to you.
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Not everyone has a shutter tester and even if one does few besides service station has one that can check shutter speed in auto mode. So there is no warranty on the accuracy of the shutter speeds. I can get perfect exposure on a camera with seriously wrong shutter speeds by simply compensate for what the actual speed is. So showing pictures taken with the camera doesn't prove the accuracy of the shutter speeds.

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May 15, 2023 13:22:17   #
gwilliams6
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Not everyone has a shutter tester and even if one does few besides service station has one that can check shutter speed in auto mode. So there is no warranty on the accuracy of the shutter speeds. I can get perfect exposure on a camera with seriously wrong shutter speeds by simply compensate for what the actual speed is. So showing pictures taken with the camera doesn't prove the accuracy of the shutter speeds.


Bebu no need for a shutter tester, just make shots at the correct meter settings using various slow to fast shutter speeds, and see if they are properly exposed, and that will indicate that your shutter is working within tolerances of its settings.

As I said, any responsible seller would want to do that for any buyer. Just put yourself in the place of that buyer who paid for your used SLR and the shutter is off. No need to be the jerk and tell them afterwards, "sorry but buyer beware".

I bought a used Canon F1 SLR as that model had been my go-to when I covered the War in Nicaragua between the Sandinistas and Contras, and one of my original Canon F1 copies had gone on to camera heaven. I use the Canon F1 when I teach my university 35mm B&W film courses. The seller verified that the shutter was still within tolerances, and since I got the camera and have extensively used it, I know that he was an honest and responsible seller.

Cheers and best to you all.



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