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Apr 16, 2023 10:31:42   #
alexol
 
+1 for Rove, installed after - hah! - one of those big orange barrel things used for road construction markers leapt off the back of a truck onto my hood, and (happily) bounced off the windscreen.

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Apr 16, 2023 10:41:49   #
Schwabo Loc: Florida
 
stanikon wrote:
My only objection to this is that you only see the videos where the cops are wrong or, at best, neutral. What you don't see are the thousands of videos where the cops are right, honest and professional. I think they would outnumber the "bad cop" videos by a very wide margin.


Ditto.

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Apr 16, 2023 11:12:23   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
TriX wrote:
Do you use a dash cam, and if so which one?

My son’s Suburban was side swiped last week which caused it to jump the curb and hit a stop sign, damaging the front as well as the driver’s side. The other car drove off, but my son’s GoPro (older model) captured everything including the offender’s license tag. The police used the information to track down the other vehicle and assign blame for the accident, but said they couldn’t ticket the other car because they couldn’t prove who was driving (???). If it hadn’t been for the dash cam, my son would have been screwed.

Since running stop signs and lights and 15+ mph over the limit on city streets in my city has become SOP, I’m thinking, as much as I hate the idea of a dangling cord down the dash, maybe I should consider one in addition to my usual ultra defensive driving. Looking for recommendations.
Do you use a dash cam, and if so which one? br br... (show quote)


Good in one sense but wouldn't it also implicate you if you were at fault? If it came to light that you had a recording of an incident you could be subpoenaed to produce it in court.

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Apr 16, 2023 11:52:11   #
bobforman Loc: Anacortes, Washington State
 
I have an Escort 360 Max Cam. Reasonably good video. There is reassurance knowing what is going on in front of me is being recorded. You also have protection from the cop that sits at the bottom of steep hill hoping you'll not ride the brakes all the way down.

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Apr 16, 2023 12:25:26   #
KillroyII Loc: Middle Georgia
 
TriX wrote:
Do you use a dash cam, and if so which one?

My son’s Suburban was side swiped last week which caused it to jump the curb and hit a stop sign, damaging the front as well as the driver’s side. The other car drove off, but my son’s GoPro (older model) captured everything including the offender’s license tag. The police used the information to track down the other vehicle and assign blame for the accident, but said they couldn’t ticket the other car because they couldn’t prove who was driving (???). If it hadn’t been for the dash cam, my son would have been screwed.

Since running stop signs and lights and 15+ mph over the limit on city streets in my city has become SOP, I’m thinking, as much as I hate the idea of a dangling cord down the dash, maybe I should consider one in addition to my usual ultra defensive driving. Looking for recommendations.
Do you use a dash cam, and if so which one? br br... (show quote)


On another part of your comment “ I hate the idea of a dangling cord down the dash”… I ran the wire under trim down to an extension to connect under the dash. Also did that many years ago for a GPS unit.

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Apr 16, 2023 15:01:15   #
Amielee Loc: Eastern Washington State
 
I have Garmin GPS with camera in each of our cars. Voice recorder turn off. Camera can show who is at fault including you. Lawyer advised me to turn off voice unless I warn each passenger they are being recorded. Also camhttps://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-771169-2.htmlera can be evidence in a wreck even if it is not your wreck. If not your accident you should advise the victim that you have recorded the wreck. They have good and bad points..

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Apr 16, 2023 15:57:48   #
Properframe Loc: US Virginia
 
I have a windshield mounted dash cam in all 3 of our cars. I have used the videos only twice. Once was to offer it to a trooper that was called to the scene of an accident I was behind and witnessed. The other was just a few weeks ago when someone rear ended me on I-95 and tried to tell the trooper I was on the shoulder and pulled out in front of them. The dash cam clearly showed the truck in front of me head to the shoulder, I stopped in my lane, and then after a delay someone hit the back of my vehicle.
Not going to play those games.
BTW if in an accident make sure the other party is charged. Otherwise both insurance companies will pay for their own respective insureds and both policies are dinged. At least that was my experience 25 years ago. A lady lost control of her car in 1 inch of snow and was spinning from lane to lane on I-95. She spun over in front of me and I T-boned her. She was in an ambulance and the trooper just wanted to get everything cleared and did not charge her for failing to control her vehicle. My insurance counted it as a claim and my rates increased. I learned from that to insist on the other party being charged.

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Apr 17, 2023 12:40:52   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
TriX wrote:
Do you use a dash cam, and if so which one?

My son’s Suburban was side swiped last week which caused it to jump the curb and hit a stop sign, damaging the front as well as the driver’s side. The other car drove off, but my son’s GoPro (older model) captured everything including the offender’s license tag. The police used the information to track down the other vehicle and assign blame for the accident, but said they couldn’t ticket the other car because they couldn’t prove who was driving (???). If it hadn’t been for the dash cam, my son would have been screwed.

Since running stop signs and lights and 15+ mph over the limit on city streets in my city has become SOP, I’m thinking, as much as I hate the idea of a dangling cord down the dash, maybe I should consider one in addition to my usual ultra defensive driving. Looking for recommendations.
Do you use a dash cam, and if so which one? br br... (show quote)


Regardless of who was driving the vehicle owner's insurance should cover the damages to the struck vehicle and any road signs or personal property. Leave it up to the owner to determine the driver and extract payment. Owners should be held responsible for whomever operates their vehicle.

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Apr 17, 2023 12:52:55   #
Amielee Loc: Eastern Washington State
 
PhotogHobbyist wrote:
Regardless of who was driving the vehicle owner's insurance should cover the damages to the struck vehicle and any road signs or personal property. Leave it up to the owner to determine the driver and extract payment. Owners should be held responsible for whomever operates their vehicle.


When my daughter borrowed my car my insurance co. told me "If you lend your car you lend your insurance." So I agree with your comment.

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Apr 17, 2023 13:17:14   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
PhotogHobbyist wrote:
Regardless of who was driving the vehicle owner's insurance should cover the damages to the struck vehicle and any road signs or personal property. Leave it up to the owner to determine the driver and extract payment. Owners should be held responsible for whomever operates their vehicle.


Most, if not all, insurance policies cover any "authorized" driver. That can be anyone you allow to drive the vehicle, whether related or not. It does not cover unauthorized drivers which would mean a thief or anyone who drives ti without your permission. That could be, for example, a minor child who takes it for a joy ride without the parents' permission.

Every sentence in an insurance policy is backed up by a sad story somewhere.

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Apr 17, 2023 22:31:31   #
clickety
 
stanikon wrote:
Most, if not all, insurance policies cover any "authorized" driver. That can be anyone you allow to drive the vehicle, whether related or not. It does not cover unauthorized drivers which would mean a thief or anyone who drives ti without your permission. That could be, for example, a minor child who takes it for a joy ride without the parents' permission.

Every sentence in an insurance policy is backed up by a sad story somewhere.


According to my AAA policy any driver living in my house must be listed on the policy to be covered, authorized drivers are defined as those not residing here but occasionally driving my vehicles with my permission.

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Apr 18, 2023 00:37:56   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
This isn’t a question of insurance coverage - the vehicle is insured and the company has the claim. The issue about the driver is that the police say they can’t charge anyone with hit and run/leaving the scene because they don’t know who was actually driving the car at the time of the accident. What confuses me is why don’t they just ask the owner?

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Apr 18, 2023 10:25:14   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
TriX wrote:
What confuses me is why don’t they just ask the owner?


So let's say they do ask the owner. Do you really think the owner is going to admit to it? Especially if the police obviously don't know the answer? So the owner says, "Not me. It was A." Then A says, "Not me, it was B." And B says, "Not me, it was the owner."

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