rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania

For all the folks who replied, here we go again, or something similar, you chose to join in, no one made you press the reply button.

JD750 Loc: SoCal

JD750 Loc: SoCal

You have proved that raw is not an image format, but it contains data that can be use to create an image file, which is exactly what I said. Thank you.

bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri

Over the years I’ve helped judge a number of 4th grade science fairs, which includes talking to the creator of the project. A few projects are really great, some you soon figure out that mom or dad did most of the work, some students don’t really care or try and some have no count parents that offered no help, no encouragement and didn’t even bother to see that the kid had a bath or clean clothes. Regardless of the situation, I have made it a point to always find something positive to put down on the evaluation sheet. Sometimes it was tough, but I’m sure that some of those kids never ever heard anything positive from their parents.

It’s easy to be critical of someone else’s work and to find fault. Any common Joe can do that. Some of those people should try seeing the positive in someone else’s work. No need to lie to them, just try looking as hard for the positive as you do the negative.

Like the smelly little boy in dirty clothes whose project was a poster board that he literally scribbled across with a pencil 5 minutes before his project had to be turned in. He told me that he had asked his parents several times to help him, but they “never got around to it.” I wasn’t able to give him any points for his project but I did give him points for being able to effectively convey a message. Even a sad pitiful message.

Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan

So, just keep using JPGs and be happy. Ysarex is knowledgeable on this topic and has been generous with his time. Others here find value in what he has to say.

How about live and let live?

fantom Loc: Colorado

DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca

And away we go....

jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America

I'm also an amateur cook... And as in photography, I always start with RAW

jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America

Editing a jpeg is like broiling an already roasted fish...

fantom Loc: Colorado

MDI Mainer

The lure of tribalism seems irresistible here too.

JD750 Loc: SoCal

Sometimes a fish is undercooked and it needs to go back in the oven for a couple minutes.

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

And of course, out comes that old fashioned Mrs Beaton cook book.

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

Microwaving leftovers

BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA

I've taken thousands of raw photos and not once did that format do a thing to help me shoot a straight horizon. For that matter, raw hasn't helped with much of anything that makes for a good photo, and is about the last thing that makes for a good photo. I've stated numerous times that I do shoot raw when I deem it MIGHT be advantageous, so don't tell me to keep shooting jpg, that's just foolish.

As far as Ysarex having knowledge on the subject, I think he can't see the forest for the trees, and his RAW exaggerations are epic.

As far as live and let live, HE initiated the conversation with me, so tell HIM to live and let live. When someone replies to any of my messages there is a good chance I will respond. That's how forums work. My recollection is I made a bland statement that jpg and raw have advantages and disadvantages and generally one can't discern the difference in the final product. That simple statement got his panties all in a bunch.

How do you feel about him taking a cell phone photo's that I compressed from 12,000,000 bytes to 149k and using that to substantiate his lame position? Whatever, chances are I won't just ignore his ignorance. He actually scrolled though more than a dozen of my pictures to find a cell phone picture (my daughter took) and I extensively cropped and compressed for an example of what?

This depth of his zealotry is rather sad, and it's not the first time a raw zealot came out of the woodwork to attack a picture I posted. The last time a zealot actually picked a photo that WAS shot as raw as an example of why jpg sucks, then decided to bash my composition and other non-raw issues when he learned the photo was in fact shot in raw format. Besides, I (nor my daughter) are professional photographers, just snapshooters and we don't spend hours contemplating each photo we take. Some are good, some suck, most in the middle and raw about never has anything to do with any of it.

I was happy to see he considered me an "expert" editor though, made me chuckle, so there's that...