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Mar 9, 2023 13:24:20   #
limey
 
I met Stirling Moss, a nice guy. I think the main reason he never won the world championship was not just his driving British cars but he only had one speed - flat out. Didn't know how to win only how to race. Still, a great and VERY versatile driver, F1, Mille Miglia, Monte Carlo rally. He raced at Le Mans, although he never won that race.

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Mar 9, 2023 13:53:27   #
ad9mac
 
Watched him at Sebring 24 hr in '57. Racing Phil Hill , Fangio. Fantastic driver.
At night the brake discs were glowing red. Exciting
Moss was driving a birdcage Maserati that had clocked over 200 mph in Bonneville.

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Mar 9, 2023 14:20:41   #
LinHSNW
 
BTW, "A rolling Moss gathers no sterling".

And Marlboro is sorely missed. I used to go there in the 60s.

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Mar 9, 2023 14:43:10   #
e056441-yahoo.com
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I watched an entertaining show last night featuring Sir Stirling Moss and the restoration a 1962 Austin-Healey Sprite that he raced. I had the MG version of that, a 1962 MG Midget. That was a great little car. When I was younger, I followed racing in Road & Track and Car and Driver magazines. Stirling Moss was a great driver, winning eighty-four races. Unfortunately, he passed away in 2020 at the age of 90.

The team worked on putting the car back into original condition, and then Stirling came to an event at a car museum and drove it. The show (Car S.O.S.) was on the Nat Geo section of Disney+. I'm watching everything I want before canceling it.

Stirling and his wife of forty years, below.

Moss in the restored Sprite below that.
I watched an entertaining show last night featurin... (show quote)


I Actually ran into him at a Barrett Jackson auction in Phoenix a number of years ago. I was going into the auction room from outside and pulled the door open. This man comes rushing through the door and into me. We were both very apologetic. He rushed off saying he was in a hurry. I stood there saying to myself I should know who that was but shrugged it off. A short while later a car comes up for auction. It was a car Stirling Moss drove and he was in the cockpit when it came on stage. That's when I figured out who it was I ran into.

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Mar 9, 2023 18:22:55   #
mr spock Loc: Fairfield CT
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I bought a messy 1952 MG TD in about 1970 and put it back in shape. I covered a lot of miles in that car. It was totally reliable.


Great looking car Jerry. All of this racing talk brought back memories of my 1973 Lotus Europa John Player Special.
Great car if you could put up with peculiarities of the Lucas electrical system ☹️

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Mar 9, 2023 18:29:14   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
mr spock wrote:
Great looking car Jerry. All of this racing talk brought back memories of my 1973 Lotus Europa John Player Special.
Great car if you could put up with peculiarities of the Lucas electrical system ☹️



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Mar 9, 2023 18:35:24   #
mr spock Loc: Fairfield CT
 
👍👍👍👌🏼👌🏼😁

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Mar 10, 2023 08:35:12   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
TriX - Lucas Smoke

Keep a supply on hand.

https://www.welshbordercarclub.com/product-page/genuine-lucas-wiring-harness-smoke

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Mar 10, 2023 08:54:46   #
ad9mac
 
Lucas Electric...Prince of Darkness.

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Mar 10, 2023 09:24:17   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
ad9mac wrote:
Lucas Electric...Prince of Darkness.


Two things always puzzled me about Lucas: why couldn't they improve?; why didn't competition appear?

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Mar 10, 2023 10:30:41   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Two things always puzzled me about Lucas: why couldn't they improve?; why didn't competition appear?


Maybe the culture. Morgan still uses wood frames to support the body to this day, the Sprite had hammered in hemp rope for the rear main seal, and older Rolls used leather for the heat ducts. Hell, a heater was an option on the Sprite. They could have bought/specified Bosch electricals, but I doubt they would have bought anything from Germany.

Great Britain has built some great cars, but Lucas has really hurt their reliability. I’m fine with SU carbs, Smith gauges, Armstrong shocks, Girling brakes, seals that leak (“sounds like you need to tighten your sump bolts mate”), rubber that “perishes”, and leather that cracks, but Lucas…

BTW, I’ve owned a Jaguar MKII, 2 bug eye sprites, a Sunbeam Alpine, an MGA (with a B engine), both an 850 and a 1275 (“original”) mini, a TR4, a Spitfire and a Cortina. May have left out one or two…

Having said all that (and having worked on one), I’d still buy an E Type (and maybe a TVR/Griffith or a Morgan). Not sure if Lucas is still making parts for British cars, but my System Engineer had a new Aston Martin. The dealer had to come get it on a trailer 8 times (by his count) in the first 18 months for electrical issues that prevented it from starting/running)

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Mar 10, 2023 13:32:42   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
TriX wrote:
Maybe the culture. Morgan still uses wood frames to support the body to this day, the Sprite had hammered in hemp rope for the rear main seal, and older Rolls used leather for the heat ducts. Hell, a heater was an option on the Sprite. They could have bought/specified Bosch electricals, but I doubt they would have bought anything from Germany.

Great Britain has built some great cars, but Lucas has really hurt their reliability. I’m fine with SU carbs, Smith gauges, Armstrong shocks, Girling brakes, seals that leak (“sounds like you need to tighten your sump bolts mate”), rubber that “perishes”, and leather that cracks, but Lucas…

BTW, I’ve owned a Jaguar MKII, 2 bug eye sprites, a Sunbeam Alpine, an MGA (with a B engine), both an 850 and a 1275 (“original”) mini, a TR4, a Spitfire and a Cortina. May have left out one or two…

Having said all that (and having worked on one), I’d still buy an E Type (and maybe a TVR/Griffith or a Morgan). Not sure if Lucas is still making parts for British cars, but my System Engineer had a new Aston Martin. The dealer had to come get it on a trailer 8 times (by his count) in the first 18 months for electrical issues that prevented it from starting/running)
Maybe the culture. Morgan still uses wood frames t... (show quote)


You've had a great assortment of cars. I had a Cortina GT, a '67 E-Type, two MG Midgets ('62 and '69), TD, and a TC. When I started driving, my car was a battleship-gray Ford Prefect. That was a nice little car. When I was living on Long Island, there was a local TVR dealer

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Mar 14, 2023 06:51:55   #
Doddy Loc: Barnard Castle-England
 
Stirling Moss might be gone..but not forgotten. I have watched many cop programs over the years, and have seen the police pull over speeding cars, and some witty officer saying something like " In a hurry Stirling!"

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Mar 14, 2023 09:51:37   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Doddy wrote:
Stirling Moss might be gone..but not forgotten. I have watched many cop programs over the years, and have seen the police pull over speeding cars, and some witty officer saying something like " In a hurry Stirling!"


That's funny! Younger drivers wouldn't know what he's talking about.

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Mar 15, 2023 06:33:09   #
Doddy Loc: Barnard Castle-England
 
jerryc41 wrote:
That's funny! Younger drivers wouldn't know what he's talking about.


I think over here Stirling moss is synonymous with speed, but your right, the younger drivers wouldn't have clue!

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