Interesting "Justice" (Page 3): No fine nor jail time will be fair to the kids. They get nothing out of that. Fairness could come from compensating them for being victimized. A fine...

clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa

JFCoupe wrote:

These details point to the difference between unfair labor practices and kids learning how to work with parents and grandparents or part-time after school jobs. The fact that the plants only had fines is unfair to the youth.

No fine nor jail time will be fair to the kids. They get nothing out of that. Fairness could come from compensating them for being victimized. A fine will get paid to the government, not the laborers. Trying to jail the CEO would be a nightmare for prosecutors. You’d have to show direct knowledge of the circumstances. Some mid management hack would be the most likely person to be convicted but how does that help the 13 year olds?

BebuLamar

They put the parents to jail, what can the kids do but to try to find work to make a living. Jailing the parents makes the matter worse for the kids.

nobody13579

clint f. wrote:

No fine nor jail time will be fair to the kids. They get nothing out of that. Fairness could come from compensating them for being victimized. A fine will get paid to the government, not the laborers. Trying to jail the CEO would be a nightmare for prosecutors. You’d have to show direct knowledge of the circumstances. Some mid management hack would be the most likely person to be convicted but how does that help the 13 year olds?

nobody13579

BebuLamar wrote:

They put the parents to jail, what can the kids do but to try to find work to make a living. Jailing the parents makes the matter worse for the kids.

Stephan G

CPR wrote:

Sorry but I don't see a problem as long as they are not forced to work and are paid and properly supervised. The kids wouldn't be there if they didn't need the money for themselves or for their family.
Not everybody is working toward 4 years at Harvard. Many of us wanted to work and learned to be self-sufficient and ended up in pretty good shape without an expensive education.

"What they don't know, wont hurt them."

Gotcha.

RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri

Triple G wrote:

Do you want your grandchildren doing that instead of homework and sleeping for school he next day?

Why don't you actually read Jerry's post? He is not advocating for child labor.

Cookie55 Loc: Hamilton, Ontario

The company I worked for hired teenagers to come in on Saturday and wash trucks. All 5 of my grandkids did it, and LOVED making 150 bucks for 8 hours' work, plus, they were taken to a restaurant for lunch!

Dannj

Cookie55 wrote:

The company I worked for hired teenagers to come in on Saturday and wash trucks. All 5 of my grandkids did it, and LOVED making 150 bucks for 8 hours' work, plus, they were taken to a restaurant for lunch!

They were certainly well paid and I’ll assume supervised. That’s a lot different from what these kids were doing.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

clint f. wrote:

...but how does that help the 13 year olds?

If the one who let that happen went to jail, it would make others think twice about making the same decision.

Cookie55 Loc: Hamilton, Ontario

Dannj wrote:

They were certainly well paid and I’ll assume supervised. That’s a lot different from what these kids were doing.

Yes, they were supervised. Back when the older grandkids did it, the pay was 100 per day, but recently, my granddaughters are making 150. They love the chance to earn some spending money!

Al Vocinq Loc: The wilds of upstate New York

It's not necessarily that it's hard to prosecute corporate crimes, it's hard to get large donations for the next DA election.

Dannj

Cookie55 wrote:

Yes, they were supervised. Back when the older grandkids did it, the pay was 100 per day, but recently, my granddaughters are making 150. They love the chance to earn some spending money!

Good for them! It’s great they have they have the opportunity to make money for themselves without being exploited in a dangerous situation.

clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa

Al Vocinq wrote:

It's not necessarily that it's hard to prosecute corporate crimes, it's hard to get large donations for the next DA election.

I’m curious how you know if it’s hard to prosecute corporate crimes? If you have a prosecutor that bases decisions on who his donors are you need a new prosecutor in the next election.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

clint f. wrote:

I’m curious how you know if it’s hard to prosecute corporate crimes? If you have a prosecutor that bases decisions on who his donors are you need a new prosecutor in the next election.

It's not so much the prosecutor as those above him - making the laws. Where do you think their campaign donations come from?

Stephan G

clint f. wrote:

I’m curious how you know if it’s hard to prosecute corporate crimes? If you have a prosecutor that bases decisions on who his donors are you need a new prosecutor in the next election.

Check out what the state senators are pushing in Georgia. There it goes up to the top, the governor. Do a bit of research on the rise of Kemp.

The first step in the process is the arrest of the person committing a crime. It isn't easy when "Orders" from above skew the process.

And in another jurisdiction, a judge summarily declares protestors in the streets as criminals without due process.

There are too many chefs in the pot.

LEOs and Prosecutors are usually the lowest folks on the totem pole.