Amielee Loc: Eastern Washington State

He put 15,000 miles on it in two years, He bought it two years ago with 25,000 miles on it and it now has 40,000 miles on it. Motive as opposed to starter batteries have warrantees that are regulated by the state. My brother had a IMA battery on his Honda go out at 83000 miles. He lived in CA and CA law requires warrantees for the battery for 150,000 miles. In WA state it is 80,000 miles. His replacement battery cost him $1,000.00 because of the use on it..I have a Honda also and it has 87,000 miles on it. If the battery goes out it is all on me.

LDB415 Loc: Houston south suburb

I misread but even at 7500 miles per year a good Civic or similar is still a better choice than a Leaf or similar. A generation from now EVs will probably be ready for prime time. Not yet.

jlf1938 Loc: Acworth, GA

Yes, I think that this is a new gimmick of car companies now, to make you wait and wait so that you will buy another car. I have been waiting on two new seat belts for my Buick LaCrosse for two months. My car rental policy did not last that long, so I am in possession of one car and that is quite an imposition for a spoiled car driver with family.

bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada

Like software, I normally wait for the 3rd release (or later). EV's are in their 1st release at present. By the 3rd release we'll have higher capacity/safer batteries (and probably not Lithium based) AND considerably lower prices. Until then internal combustion power is just fine!

bwa

NDMarks Loc: Dublin, Ca

Your problem is one of the reasons I won't buy an electric vehicle at this time. I have heard prices of 10K to replace batteries, and all batteries eventually fail. What worries me is what's going to happen to all the batteries that failed? There are supposed to be recyclers for them but will they be able to handle the load of all the failed batteries down the road when so many begin to fail? If I were to buy a new vehicle, it would probably be Hybrid. As for now, I have a 1994 Dodge Ram, Cummins diesel, 5-speed and I am getting over 20 mpg so that will probably outlast me.

mr spock Loc: Fairfield CT

Shellenberger's book should be read by everyone

mr spock Loc: Fairfield CT

You're right we'll probably run out of fossil fuels in the next few hundred years. By then even electricity will be a thing well in the past as a power source.
However, you buying an EV will certainly help save the planet.

bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada

edrobinsonjr Loc: Boise, Idaho

I don't know what goes wrong with the chemistry in a sealed battery.

I read somewhere about a person that took the battery out of their Prius, took all of the connections apart and cleaned them. When put back together it was good as new. Probably not your average DIY project but . . .

No excuse for a 6 month wait on a new battery.



Ed

fantom Loc: Colorado

scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.

I think I would have them in court.

Jim Bianco

Gas,gas,gas, battery powered vehicles are not advanced enough to be sold yet, it takes at least an hour to charge one, gas a few minutes, it is a no branner!!! Good luck with your car.

Woodworm65 Loc: Lombard, IL

As time goes on we will find out all of the pitfalls of EV cars, they do not get the estimated miles they all advertise due to the heat and the cold, but the biggest problem is the battery fires we hear nothing about and the short life of the batteries as well as the problem with disposal of them they are not recycled they are buried in a land fill and that also apples to wind generators our government and the people who run it are paid very well by the lobbyists that sell them on the EV, and wind generators and what really ticks me off is the tax credit they give the buyers which is my tax dollars, which that money could be put to help SS, and Medicare.
I have a very good friend that worked for UL Labs and they are constantly testing the batteries, and the findings would scare you, as I quote him don’t charge the cars in your garage as they can catch fire and burn your entire house down, this also applies to solar storage batteries for houses, it’s great to think all of this will save the world but the government is so near sighted none of them can see the forest for the trees, we need infrastructure to support the EV business, we need better and cheaper batteries that don’t catch fire, and don’t cost a fortune to dig for lithium, and as far as wind power we need blades that can be recycled and also batteries that can be recycled, when you really sit down and think about it we are a long long ways from perfecting any of the EV’s and solar and wind power.

Walkabout08

👍 I’ve been driving a Tesla Y for over 2 years. Best car I’ve ever owned. No oil changes, no exhaust system, no tune ups and on and on. All I do for maintenance is fill the windshield fluid, replace the wipers and tires when they wear out. Charged by my home PV array. Can’t understand why all you preppers here at the Hog aren’t all over this!

Mike Foster

I am sorry to hear of your troubles. One thing that I have seen little of is where the electricity is coming from. I worked part of my career as structural engineer in the utility industry. Coal fired power plants are dying due to political pressure. Gas turbine power plants may run out of gas due to no fracking. Bad for the environment. This leaves windmills and solar. Solar is only good for a half a day on average, and then only if the sun shines. Windmills are OK when the wind blows, and you don't worry about all the dead birds that were killed by spinning blades. Most people believe that electricity comes from the slots in the wall. They don't know of the power plants, transmission lines, transformers, sub-stations, and all the things that go with electric power grid. As for me, I am sticking with my gasoline powered vehicle. By the way I can fill up in 10 minutes instead of hours on a battery charger.