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Mar 4, 2023 17:04:20   #
davidv Loc: salt lake city utah
 
2 years ago I purchased an EV, to be exact it’s a 2017 Nissan Leaf. I purchased this used from a non Nissan dealer, which doesn’t make a difference because Nissan warranty is from Nissan not the dealer. So now on with the story. I purchased this car with 25,000 miles on it and have now 40,000 plus’s a few on it and the battery died on my way to a destination. I had it towed to a Nissan dealer to check it out. They said the battery was trash and they would have to replace it. The good news is it’s still under Nissan Warranty, the bad news is they say it will take 3-6 months to fix it. So it now sets at the Nissan dealer wating for it to be repaired and both the dealer and Nissan say they don’t give out loner cars. What bothers me the most is the government is pushing EVs and the Nissan company doesn’t have a battery to replace my battery with, good planning on Nissan’s warranty department. Now I guss I’m supposed to ether weight for the car to be repaired or purchase another vehicle, guess what, it won’t be a Nissan. Hard to believe these companies spend millions on advertising how wonderful there vehicles and warranty are, then when it comes to spending a few dollars to just take care of the costumer this is how they do it. They spend millions for good advertisements, my bad advertisements cost me nothing.

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Mar 4, 2023 17:15:34   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Ouch....

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Mar 4, 2023 17:18:55   #
Mike D. Loc: Crowley County, CO.
 
Here are some choices and NONE of them are made by Nissan.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/electric/fastest-electric-cars/#:~:text=Tesla%20Roadster,-0%E2%80%9360mph%3A%201.9&text=Despite%20this%2C%20Tesla%20says%20the,it%20enormous%20200kWh%20battery%20pack.

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Mar 4, 2023 17:44:11   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
Mike D. wrote:
Here are some choices and NONE of them are made by Nissan.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/electric/fastest-electric-cars/#:~:text=Tesla%20Roadster,-0%E2%80%9360mph%3A%201.9&text=Despite%20this%2C%20Tesla%20says%20the,it%20enormous%20200kWh%20battery%20pack.


This is from a UK website. I doubt if all of these options are available in the US.

The issue here seems to be getting Nissan to pay for the new battery under warranty. I'm sure that a used, but working battery will show up now and then in a scrap yard, but the OP might have to pay for the battery.

Battery failure is the tip of the iceberg of potential problems with electric cars. These batteries have a documented history of bursting into flames. There have been two near me in the past few months, and Lithium battery fires are difficult to put out. Range is going to be severely limited in our coldest states in the winter. Thousands, if not millions of cars in urban area rely on street parking at night. I see chargers springing up in commercial parking lots and in parks, but we're far short of needed charging stations where many people park at night. Since we're on the path to electric cars, these are problems that need to be worked out as we move along in that direction.

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Mar 4, 2023 17:57:27   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
Wow!! That is terrible!! Dare I ask what the battery would cost if you had to purchase it yourself?

The other thing I was wondering if if your vehicle will still be under warranty when the battery finally does arrive?

There are too many issues that need to be worked out before the electric vehicles are a practical alternative to gas and diesel.

Best wishes with ever new vehicle you purchase.

Dodie

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Mar 4, 2023 18:11:19   #
BebuLamar
 
davidv wrote:
2 years ago I purchased an EV, to be exact it’s a 2017 Nissan Leaf. I purchased this used from a non Nissan dealer, which doesn’t make a difference because Nissan warranty is from Nissan not the dealer. So now on with the story. I purchased this car with 25,000 miles on it and have now 40,000 plus’s a few on it and the battery died on my way to a destination. I had it towed to a Nissan dealer to check it out. They said the battery was trash and they would have to replace it. The good news is it’s still under Nissan Warranty, the bad news is they say it will take 3-6 months to fix it. So it now sets at the Nissan dealer wating for it to be repaired and both the dealer and Nissan say they don’t give out loner cars. What bothers me the most is the government is pushing EVs and the Nissan company doesn’t have a battery to replace my battery with, good planning on Nissan’s warranty department. Now I guss I’m supposed to ether weight for the car to be repaired or purchase another vehicle, guess what, it won’t be a Nissan. Hard to believe these companies spend millions on advertising how wonderful there vehicles and warranty are, then when it comes to spending a few dollars to just take care of the costumer this is how they do it. They spend millions for good advertisements, my bad advertisements cost me nothing.
2 years ago I purchased an EV, to be exact it’s a ... (show quote)


You put in only 15,000 miles in 5 or so years. You drive too little and your car battery dies so early. How much is the few dollars to take care of the customer?

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Mar 4, 2023 18:43:58   #
Mike D. Loc: Crowley County, CO.
 
I realize this Therwol, I was just poking a little fun. Such a "replacement" would run the OP at least 2.2 million anyway so really, it's not much of an option. lol

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Mar 4, 2023 18:45:40   #
davidv Loc: salt lake city utah
 
These probably not much better in repairs.

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Mar 4, 2023 18:48:27   #
davidv Loc: salt lake city utah
 
No problem replacing it with a new battery, don’t want some used one. The issue is 3-6 months to get it.

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Mar 5, 2023 05:28:24   #
Ollieboy
 
The electric car horror stories are just beginning.

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Mar 5, 2023 05:46:37   #
JADAV
 
The car manufacturers here in Europe are still affected by the backlogs caused by Covid and the difficulty in supply of microchips and batteries from the Far East. My neighbour has had a new Land Rover on order for 12 months now and has only just been informed that his vehicle is due this month. It is obvious that there isn't a stock of batteries held for replacements within warranty either. The shortage of new cars has a knock on effect in the secondhand car market too, the delays in delivering new cars are increasing demand and therefore costs. In February I had to replace my elderly diesel vehicle and was shocked at the limited number of available used cars and their prices. I am in no way an apologist for the car manufacturers they have been delinquent in their policies and activities. The situation concerning the universal replacement of internal combustion vehicles with EV's is the result of poor planning and political pressure. Having declared that EV's are to be fully introduced by 2030 the British goverment have run away from the need to invest the proposed "largest battery plant in the UK" so that the developers have declared bankrupcy. The project has now fallen into the hands of an Australian company with no definite possibility of construction and productivity at the required capacity. I can't see how the whole EV problem is going to be solved in time and foresee that come 2030 "the can will be kicked further down the road". Best of luck with obtaining the necessary battery for your Nissan Leaf in the future.

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Mar 5, 2023 08:18:14   #
srron Loc: Courtice,On.
 
I've seen reports that many Chinese EV owners are demanding their money back from Tesla because they have found out how dangerous they are,not to mention that they are worse for the environment.

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Mar 5, 2023 08:19:15   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
Well, that's the ugly "inconvenient truth" about EVs - the batteries are very costly and do need replacement after a certain number of recharges (and of course, are exptremely hazardous material to dispose of - still waiting for little Greta to explain why they make sense). But by not pointing out things like that, thee naive are willing to buy them because it virtue signals that they are helping Mother Earth.

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Mar 5, 2023 08:37:32   #
agillot
 
On another subject , 2013 nissan sentra with 130k miles , transmission number 4 , if you count the original one , all out of warranty except one [ trans number 3 went 8k miles ] . So Nissan does not exist with me .The last one cost me $ 5400 .Nissan does not want to hear about it .

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Mar 5, 2023 08:58:18   #
Bison Bud
 
Sorry to hear about your problems with battery failure and your Nissan warranty. Having to wait 3 to 6 months for warranty repairs is absurd. Frankly, the batteries are going to be a big issue on down the road. Some fail, like yours did, all lose capacity with every charge, and especially the lithium Ion batteries are a bit of a fire hazard when charging and at least in my opinion in a crash as well. They tend to explode and burn when punctured and burn even hotter than gasoline with no way to put them out until all the stored energy is released. I wonder what kind of protection or even consideration the EV manufacturers have given this issue and how they plan to protect these batteries in a crash situation?

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