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Mar 5, 2023 11:40:16   #
rcarol
 
therwol wrote:
This is from a UK website. I doubt if all of these options are available in the US.

The issue here seems to be getting Nissan to pay for the new battery under warranty. I'm sure that a used, but working battery will show up now and then in a scrap yard, but the OP might have to pay for the battery.

Battery failure is the tip of the iceberg of potential problems with electric cars. These batteries have a documented history of bursting into flames. There have been two near me in the past few months, and Lithium battery fires are difficult to put out. Range is going to be severely limited in our coldest states in the winter. Thousands, if not millions of cars in urban area rely on street parking at night. I see chargers springing up in commercial parking lots and in parks, but we're far short of needed charging stations where many people park at night. Since we're on the path to electric cars, these are problems that need to be worked out as we move along in that direction.
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I can't speak for the rest of the country but in California we have an overabundance of rental apartment complexes and condo complexes. In either case, the renter or condo owner cannot install a charging station in their allotted parking spaces and will have to rely on 115VAC outlets for charging their EVs. I doubt that an EV can be charged completely overnight using 115VAC.

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Mar 5, 2023 11:42:05   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
rcarol wrote:
I can't speak for the rest of the country but in California we have an overabundance of rental apartment complexes and condo complexes. In either case, the renter or condo owner cannot install a charging station in their allotted parking spaces and will have to rely on 115VAC outlets for charging their EVs. I doubt that an EV can be charged completely overnight using 115VAC.


Well, didn't your king - er, governor - decree that due to a lack of available power there will be times when EV owners need to not charge their miraculous vehicles, or do it at night only?

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Mar 5, 2023 11:44:56   #
Burtzy Loc: Bronx N.Y. & Simi Valley, CA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
But for what it's worth the OP Leaf doesn't have a transmission. Electric Car is good in all aspects except uhm... it's power source. The battery is very bad.


The point of my comment was not what was wrong with the car but how high up the ladder to complain.

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Mar 5, 2023 12:12:48   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
StanMac wrote:
Who put the bee in your bonnet? Ignorance is bliss, I suppose. Affordable fossil fuels will not be available forever.

Stan


As spoken by the one in the dark. Here's a thought - read some books:

"Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All" by Michael Shellenberger and "Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom" by Dr Patrick Moore.

We all need to recognize that there has been a concerted plan to herd us into what can only be described as a horrific future, sold under the guise of "convenience" and pushed hard by those who are behind it using fear as the motivator. And look up '15 minutes cities' (and see all the propaganda foisted by 'fair and balanced sourcees like CNN) - and just use your little head to think it through. In the name of saving the world from climate change, you will need special permission to go beyond a few miles of your home - nothing like peeling our individual freedoms and liberties a small slice at a time. Which, of course, is the entire plan.

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Mar 5, 2023 12:28:21   #
rcarol
 
f8lee wrote:
Well, didn't your king - er, governor - decree that due to a lack of available power there will be times when EV owners need to not charge their miraculous vehicles, or do it at night only?


Yes, he did. And remember he wants to be your next president. He wants to do to the rest of the country what he has done to California.

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Mar 5, 2023 12:53:50   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
davidv wrote:
2 years ago I purchased an EV, to be exact it’s a 2017 Nissan Leaf. I purchased this used from a non Nissan dealer, which doesn’t make a difference because Nissan warranty is from Nissan not the dealer. So now on with the story. I purchased this car with 25,000 miles on it and have now 40,000 plus’s a few on it and the battery died on my way to a destination. I had it towed to a Nissan dealer to check it out. They said the battery was trash and they would have to replace it. The good news is it’s still under Nissan Warranty, the bad news is they say it will take 3-6 months to fix it. So it now sets at the Nissan dealer wating for it to be repaired and both the dealer and Nissan say they don’t give out loner cars. What bothers me the most is the government is pushing EVs and the Nissan company doesn’t have a battery to replace my battery with, good planning on Nissan’s warranty department. Now I guss I’m supposed to ether weight for the car to be repaired or purchase another vehicle, guess what, it won’t be a Nissan. Hard to believe these companies spend millions on advertising how wonderful there vehicles and warranty are, then when it comes to spending a few dollars to just take care of the costumer this is how they do it. They spend millions for good advertisements, my bad advertisements cost me nothing.
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The battery 'shortage' is pretty standard with Nissan EV's. They're hoping you just opt to buy a new vehicle. And Nissan makes a lot more money selling new vehicles rather than replacing batteries.

At least they're saying they can get you a new battery. Several people in Canada have been told there are no replacement batteries available!

bwa

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Mar 5, 2023 14:17:43   #
nervous2 Loc: Provo, Utah
 
For me, it's far too early in the product cycle to consider an electric car. Not even for my wife as a run-around car for use locally. Not gonna do it. Still too many bugs and horror stories like this one. I have to question why anyone would buy an electric Ford F-150, but I guess some are doing so.

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Mar 5, 2023 14:22:13   #
Michael Sabetsky Loc: Rockledge, Florida
 
davidv wrote:
2 years ago I purchased an EV, to be exact it’s a 2017 Nissan Leaf. I purchased this used from a non Nissan dealer, which doesn’t make a difference because Nissan warranty is from Nissan not the dealer. So now on with the story. I purchased this car with 25,000 miles on it and have now 40,000 plus’s a few on it and the battery died on my way to a destination. I had it towed to a Nissan dealer to check it out. They said the battery was trash and they would have to replace it. The good news is it’s still under Nissan Warranty, the bad news is they say it will take 3-6 months to fix it. So it now sets at the Nissan dealer wating for it to be repaired and both the dealer and Nissan say they don’t give out loner cars. What bothers me the most is the government is pushing EVs and the Nissan company doesn’t have a battery to replace my battery with, good planning on Nissan’s warranty department. Now I guss I’m supposed to ether weight for the car to be repaired or purchase another vehicle, guess what, it won’t be a Nissan. Hard to believe these companies spend millions on advertising how wonderful there vehicles and warranty are, then when it comes to w×× advertisements, my bad advertisements cost me nothing.
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Dave. My son has a Lexus. When he has to take it in for repair at Lexus they give him a loaner car. His car is out of warranty & yes it is expensive to repair but it sure as hell beats having to add the cost of a rental to the car problem. We live in Florida.

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Mar 5, 2023 14:23:44   #
BebuLamar
 
nervous2 wrote:
For me, it's far too early in the product cycle to consider an electric car. Not even for my wife as a run-around car for use locally. Not gonna do it. Still too many bugs and horror stories like this one. I have to question why anyone would buy an electric Ford F-150, but I guess some are doing so.


I guess a lot of those who buy the electric ford F-150 can fill their needs with a little car that run on gasoline and in the end I wouldn't be sure which vehicle is better for the environment.

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Mar 5, 2023 14:30:36   #
lyja17 Loc: hawaii
 
We own a 2019 Nissan Leaf and a 2019 Tesla model S. The Leaf is an ideal town car. The trick of long battery life is to charge it to 80% unless a long drive is planned. Climate change is real.

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Mar 5, 2023 14:32:45   #
Canisdirus
 
Once I looked behind the curtain...lithium mining...I stopped looking at EV vehicles.

I can't know that...and then just lie to myself every day.

So I don't have to now.

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Mar 5, 2023 14:35:21   #
BebuLamar
 
lyja17 wrote:
We own a 2019 Nissan Leaf and a 2019 Tesla model S. The Leaf is an ideal town car. The trick of long battery life is to charge it to 80% unless a long drive is planned. Climate change is real.


Do you have a gasoline powered car?

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Mar 5, 2023 14:37:17   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
StanMac wrote:
Early automobile adoption in the 19th and 20th century faced the same kind of infrastructure shortcomings, and parts and repair issues, EVs are facing today, I am sure. As EV adoption expands, so will the infrastructure. It better - peak oil is near.

Stan

The very significant difference is that the government wasn’t making the decision as to what type of transportation you wanted to use. There is lifetimes of petroleum still untapped.

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Mar 5, 2023 14:39:49   #
tgreenhaw
 
The supply chain problems sure are getting annoying.I ordered a plug in hybrid last July and I'm still waiting...

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Mar 5, 2023 15:08:49   #
Smudgey Loc: Ohio, Calif, Now Arizona
 
I have a Nissan Frontier truck that i bought new in 2016 and all I have done is put gas and oil in it, and I am getting ready to put new tires on it. Knock on wood, no problems, and recently I received a coupon from the dealer for a Free synthetic oil change which they normally charge $76.00 for. There was not any pressure to do any additional work on the truck. They changed the oil and said thanks for coming in. I was amazed. EVs are indeed a better way to go, but we are in a transitional period. Cars and especially batteries are getting better and better. Your problem is a tough one and I totally understand your frustration. Make a lot of noise with Nissan and the dealer. Go to the media help lines. We have one with channel 3 called 3 on your side that act as an advocate for people with problems like yours. It is amazing how fast things can change if your problem gets on the air.

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