DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

Me, too.

One of the reasons I use Lightroom is for the organization features. One of the other reasons I use Lightroom is that it's so easy to jump to Photoshop when Lightroom won't do something, and then back to Lightroom with the updated image, which is then in the organized system.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

If you find LR’s selection tools limiting then you haven’t looked at them in a while. I do use Photoshop when I need to but that has been less and less with the masking tools now in LR. And yes, LR is easier.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Lightroom is for photographers that want to accomplish more over more images, while working faster with less effort. No one needs a notepad of reminders to instantly find any of their 97,334 individual images, my personal catalog size this morning.

LR doesn't have a folder system. No, the human has their folder system. LR simply remembers the images and folders where the human introduced their images to the catalog. LR doesn't care how complex or convoluted your folder system. If you lived at 10 S Main yesterday, but moved to 44 W Congress tomorrow, would you expect your mail to magically arrive to your new address if you didn't update your address? Or your bills? Or your electric service? No, you'd have to update your records, just like the LR catalog, if you want to move you files outside the LR catalog.

The LR catalog is just easier to use if you pick and place your images into their final location first, and then add them to the LR catalog. If you just scatter them like seeds in a field, and then continue to drag them around your hard drive willy nilly, the LR catalog might be harder to use / understand.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around that one. I could say “The thing I like about Lightroom that you don't get in Bridge, is everything on my computer is in Lightroom.”
And isn’t Bridge essentially a file browser? So if I save my edits to a sidecar file in Lightroom couldn’t I just point Bridge at my directory structure where my photos are saved and then I’d have them in Bridge?
One important feature for my that Bridge lacks is the ability to create virtual copies. I can easily create multiple different editing choices and compare them side-by-side without making physical copies.

jcboy3

I've been using Adobe Photoshop since Adobe Photoshop 3.0 in 1990. I've spent thousands of dollars updating Photoshop, and then Creative Suite (I also used Adobe Illustrator, starting with Illustrator 88 around 1989). I don't do graphics work anymore, so when Adobe launched the liceinsing deal for Photoshop and Lightroom, I jumped on it as a bargain. And the fact that updates and new features and bug fixes are rolled out regularly (instead of being rolled up for the next big release) makes it a valuable combination for me. In fact, it's a bargain and after all these years of saving with the current licensing deal, I'm willing to keep it up even if the updates stop coming (as frequently, at least). I don't even have to think about budgeting for the next big release.

I currently have 215251 photos in my Lightroom library. I still go back and cull; and it's easy with Lightroom.

I don't let Lightroom organize my folders; after decades I have my own scheme. I copy images into folders on my hard disk and then import them, into Lightroom, and after an initial cull rename them using the folder name and a sequence number. After that, I might tack more descriptive info to the end of that name. But any photo I have exported has that root name and I can easily find it on disk or in Lightroom.

If you are worried about catalog corruption, I recommend using XMP sidecar files with each file. This will make it possible to recover a catalog file or easily restore photos to a catalog if they have been moved.

As Lightroom is enhanced, I have less need to edit in Photoshop. Most of the time, I apply one or more of my custom presets, do a little touch up and cropping, and I'm done. These days, I'm more likely to send the photo over to Topaz than to Photoshop. But I still use Photoshop when I'm doing heavy processing or being "artsy-fartsy".

Lightroom has improved its image comparison tool, which is especially useful when I come back from a wildlife or sports shoot with a few thousand images shot at 25fps. I can get the exact shot I want from a sequence, and delete the rest, with very little effort.

I dabble with some other programs, but I still come back to the Lightroom/Photoshop suite because it has made my workflow efficient and enjoyable.

ronichas Loc: Long Island

I can find documents, invoices & things on my computer that are not photos. Can you find these kinds of documents in lightroom? I don't think so. Yes bridge doesn't keep virtual copies. That has never been an issue for me.

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Check out my website. I have been a professional photographer for many years. It works for me.

This is a discussion we will have to agree to disagree. I am so used to bridge, acr and photoshop. I excel at this, you may excel at lightroom.

I don't think members here have to insult/criticize others who don't agree with them.

**No one needs a notepad of reminders to instantly find any of their 97,334 individual images, my personal catalog size this morning.**

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

Even using the “copy” or “move” command during import you still determine where Lightroom imports to. Either way you go it’s easy to maintain whatever directory structure you want but it’s completely unimportant when it comes to using Lightroom.

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

I have lots of documents, invoices & things that I merely scanned in so they are images. They are in my Lightroom catalog.

Word processing files and PDFs, not so much. But I don't have THAT many of them.

Dennis833 Loc: Australia

I use Bridge with it set to open tiff images with Affinity Photo2. I also switched from Adobe InDesign to Affinity Publisher and have never looked back.

jonyrot

I quit using LR years ago after Adobe lied to its customers about moving to a subscription model. I am happy using DXO, its stable and does everything I need it to do.

terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains

If the changes in Lightroom mean nothing to me I should quit my Photoshop subscription? Since I use Photoshop 99.9% of the time, what does that gain me? Anyway, if I don't like Lightroom, I still have Camera Raw which is all that Lightroom is in the first place.

terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains

terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains

terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains

Absolutely!! And if you wish you can create Collections, Smart Collections, Favorites, keywords, ratings, color coding—and browse your whole computer.

I have used Photoshop since ver. 2.5, the first one for Windows (1992.) That's 30 years. I am used to color grading, tonal grading, color correction, burning/dodging, layer functions, channel operations, and all the other things that Photoshop does so superbly, and see no reason to abandon any of that.

I know that there are those here who are such knowledgeable expert photographers that they never need any kind of retouching to their SOOC jpeg masterpieces, but I like to create images, not just take pictures. Photoshop helps me do that. Camera Raw develops the raw file for me, and some of the new AI features are very useful; thing is that they are all available in Photoshop as a filter—no exporting-importing BS, just do the change, and click OK.

terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains

"I don't think members here have to insult/criticize others who don't agree with them."

I found those comments just bizarre in their arrogance.