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Feb 8, 2023 07:54:02   #
Nortfish Loc: Port St. Lucie, Fla
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Before you succumb to a software GAS attack, assure you're being effective in actively managing and overriding the default settings that LR gives for both Noise Processing and Sharpening. Ideas and examples are presented here:

Basics of noise processing

Basics of Lightroom Sharpening

I have an older Topaz DeNoise as a 2nd step to LR's NR processing, for higher ISO images. I sharpen both before and after, only in LR, for images sent to DeNoise, using the techniques discussed in the link above.
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Thanks Paul. The best explanation of these subjects I've ever read.

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Feb 8, 2023 08:30:40   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
redfordl wrote:
I am presently looking for a pure sharpening program other than the one in lightroom classic. After Utubing and looking at videos on sharpening i see topaz sharpen Ai recommended. I have topaz denoise Ai which i obtained as a free upgrade from topaz denoise 5 which works well . Have used denoise on images taken in my house at 3200 iso and it has done well and sharpened the images at the same time. Any recommendation on a sharpening program that you feel works better than topaz sharpen AI? Thanks!
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You're aiming at a moving target. They are constantly changing and for the most part improving. Todays outstanding may be tomorrow's Meh or vice versa. I happen to use the Topaz set and it seems like once a week or so, new function along with fixes shows up. The fact that they are adding new and fixing old tells me they are actively on top and looking to improve. Not sure sign up for tha trial version and see for yourself.

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Feb 8, 2023 10:55:26   #
katherineivey Loc: Corinth, Texas
 
I agree. If you are using a version of Topaz that is more than 2 upgrades old, you cannot make a fair assessment or give advice about that Topaz product. It is amazing how much it has improved. That's why I went to the monthly subscription for denoise and sharpen. Denoise is so good that I only use sharpen occasionally. In good light I normally nail the focus close enough for Lightroom adjustment only. Denoise rocks!!

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Feb 8, 2023 11:46:27   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
katherineivey wrote:
I agree. If you are using a version of Topaz that is more than 2 upgrades old, you cannot make a fair assessment or give advice about that Topaz product. It is amazing how much it has improved. That's why I went to the monthly subscription for denoise and sharpen. Denoise is so good that I only use sharpen occasionally. In good light I normally nail the focus close enough for Lightroom adjustment only. Denoise rocks!!



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Feb 8, 2023 15:02:44   #
dannac Loc: 60 miles SW of New Orleans
 
redfordl wrote:
Any recommendation on a sharpening program


Sharpening for print vs web display will be different most of the time.

If you are mainly displaying images on web, have a look at software by Greg Benz.

https://gregbenzphotography.com/web-sharp-pro-panel

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Feb 8, 2023 17:07:10   #
Luft93 Loc: Finger Lakes, NY
 
Rick from NY wrote:
Whoa - that is just not so. All digital images require some sharpening in order to look their best. But sharpening software was never designed to make a poorly focused image “sharp”. In some cases, Topaz, DXO and Adobe may help make a slightly out of focus picture semi acceptable, but they were designed to improve a well focused image. Saying that the various software does a “poor job” or tries to act as “crutches” to support poor photo skills is wildly off the mark. Your problem is obviously that you are not taking focused pics in the first place. Learn how to accurately focus when shooting and you’ll find that many of the touted capabilities of the equipment are in fact incredible. Just buying a Ferrari will not make me drive like an F1 driver. Or more succinctly, “garbage in, garbage out!” Stop blaming your equipment.

BTW - to answer your actual question, I use Topaz AI when venturing beyond Adobe.
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Well said, I couldn’t understand d why there were so many reply’s inferring sharpening out of focus’s images. That is done in the camera at the instant of exposure.

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Feb 8, 2023 21:34:13   #
photosbytw Loc: Blue Ridge Mountains
 
Rick from NY wrote:
Do you shoot raw in camera? My reason for asking is that if you do shoot raw, I’m interested in how you can avoid any sharpening in post, even if they were “well shot”. I never argue with a fellow photographer about how he/she applies post or doesn’t


I shoot strictly RAW images and I use LR and PSCC as both allow access to the NIK collection. That said, I have a 3-monitor set-up with my 27" iMac 5K Retina to do my Post-processing which allows me to pixel-peep the images. As LR processes my RAW file images, I've never seen the need to add sharpening but this is a personal opinion.

BTW, just to be clear. No offense taken and no offense intended.......


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Feb 9, 2023 00:27:46   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
photosbytw wrote:
I shoot strictly RAW images and I use LR and PSCC as both allow access to the NIK collection. That said, I have a 3-monitor set-up with my 27" iMac 5K Retina to do my Post-processing which allows me to pixel-peep the images. As LR processes my RAW file images, I've never seen the need to add sharpening but this is a personal opinion.

BTW, just to be clear. No offense taken and no offense intended.......


LR is doing the sharpening to your raws. I’m sure you know and perhaps adjust the sharpening slider is in the detail panel

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Feb 10, 2023 13:03:10   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
I have been using Topaz Sharpen since before the AI was added. It may not be magic but it is close to it. Yes, as Paul points out LR/PS, very satisfactory sharping can be done in those programs. Over the years I have learned that for special projects, like sharping a photo, specialized products tend to do a faster, easier job. Read Paul's links and try the process and see what you think. Then try the free download of Topaz Sharpen and see what you think about that software. Chose the one that works best for you
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Feb 10, 2023 17:22:37   #
Joexx
 
redfordl wrote:
Architect, actually most of my photos are sharp as i use the proper photo taking techniques(proper camera handholding,tripod use,focus pt techniques etc.) to prevent blurry images or out of focus ones. I was just making this inquiry as topaz had offered me a deal as a bundle sharpening AI,Gigapixel AI,and Photo AI for 139$,but from Paul"s info on sharpening and denoising i can get along with just using lightroom for denoise,and sharpening images..used properly.


I have used LR, PS and the Topaz products quite a bit. I feel that LR does an excellent job of removing the Chroma noise and often a good job of removing the luminance noise, if you do not need to be too selective where you want it removed.
I find the sharpening abilities in LR to be very poor when compared to what you can do in Topaz or PS. Lately the Topaz products have improved and become quite good. Lately I find myself almost never using PS to sharpening, because I can do the same or better in Topaz and it is usually much faster. I suggest you download and test them.

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