Pence investigation. Starts in house ???? (Page 2): Nope why would you say that ? It is trump and pence and Biden . In fact this very thread is about pence...

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Architect1776 wrote:

Now that it is libs getting busted all of a sudden a change in attitude?

Nope why would you say that ?
It is trump and pence and Biden .

In fact this very thread is about pence

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

JohnFrim wrote:

Trump "stole" the government's classifie... (show quote)

No he didn't steal them. The documents left Wash. DC for Mar-a-Lago before noon on Jan. 20 when Trump was still president and were within proper authority to do so. How is that stealing? Try thinking a little deeper about this.

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

Fotoartist wrote:

No he didn't steal them. The documents left Wash. DC for Mar-a-Lago before noon on Jan. 20 when Trump was still president and were within proper authority to do so. How is that stealing? Try thinking a little deeper about this.

Try catching on as to why I put it in quotes. Trumpette chains are so easy to yank.

National Park

Frank T wrote:

Interesting turn of events.
Maybe we should all check our basements for classified documents.

It was cold in the house last night so I used some documents, I mean newspaper (did I mistakenly say "documents?"), to get a wood fire started in the fireplace. Classified documents? I don't have no stinkin' classified documents!

FrumCA

Frank T wrote:

Interesting turn of events.
Maybe we should all check our basements for classified documents.

Including past and present Senators and Representatives.

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

JohnFrim wrote:

Try catching on as to why I put it in quotes. Trumpette chains are so easy to yank.

OK, I am trying to understand. What did the quotes mean in your statement, "Trump "stole" the government's classified documents".

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

Fotoartist wrote:

OK, I am trying to understand. What did the quotes mean in your statement, "Trump "stole" the government's classified documents".

Ok, just for you… leftist extremists and Trump haters might like to use “stole” to paint Trump in a bad light. It’s kinda like you calling the legal search of Mar-a-Lago a “raid.” Even though I despise Trump as a human creature I don’t think for a minute that he “stole” the documents, but he did take them willfully despite not being entitled to them.

wsnyder Loc: Illinois

DennyT wrote:

Just my opinion .
The problem is not pence biden or trump ( other than his obstruction) it is the classification system is out of control.
For example a document that is legitimately classified is noted by name only in a second document then that second document becomes classified also. Out of control AND to many people have been granted clearances . So many that the clearance process is virtually useless

It seems that so sort of revision of the system is in order. I worked for years in an industry that each step in the manufacturing process had to be signed for. I think a similar system would work with classified documents. In the event of issues, it could easily be determined who had it last, and why it wasn't returned.

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

wsnyder wrote:

It seems that so sort of revision of the system is in order. I worked for years in an industry that each step in the manufacturing process had to be signed for. I think a similar system would work with classified documents. In the event of issues, it could easily be determined who had it last, and why it wasn't returned.

I don’t know the standard operating procedures for the executive branch but every Senator and Congressman, both R & D) interviewed by the press have stated that if you have a committee assignment that requires reading in on a classified document they must be viewed in a scif with no cell phones or electronic devises and left their when they leave so if Senator Biden has documents from that era they would have been taken knowing that it was wrong to do so. In the long run as pervasive as this is I don’t see anyone suffering criminal sanctions unless the content of a document suggests some illegal intent and if one or more did contain incriminating evidence I can’t imagine it still exists given the way, in Biden’s case, they were collected.

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

JohnFrim wrote:

Trump "stole" the government's classifie... (show quote)

Seems to me your tongue in cheek mischaracterization of “stole” isn’t you only possible misstatement of facts. We know the liberal press has characterized the Mar-a-Lago search as an obstruction of justice by lack of cooperation and possibly lying regarding the number. But if I was a defense attorney I might argue that we were in ongoing negotiations regardless of how protracted and determine if the DOJ exhausted all of their legal remedies to recover them prior to executing the search warrant in the extraordinary manner in which they did. By misstatement of facts you are stating what has been put out there but much is still to be learned before conclusions are drawn.

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

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JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

Effate wrote:

Seems to me your tongue in cheek mischaracterizati... (show quote)

And if I were a prosecutor I would ask, "How f**king long does it take to comply with a subpoena?"

Well, IF I were a prosecutor I might not phrase it quite that boldly.

But you are correct, there is much to learn.

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

Effate wrote:

I don’t know the standard operating procedures for... (show quote)

You do not have to be in a SCIF to read lower levels of classified documents. It is quite permissible to hold these documents outside of a SCIF, but you still need some appropriate level of secure storage. I had many such documents in my locked filing cabinet at work. Note: the lock was NOT bought at Walmart.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Effate wrote:

I don’t know the standard operating procedures for... (show quote)

Only specifically designated documents require SCIF procedures - not all classified.

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

JohnFrim wrote:

You do not have to be in a SCIF to read lower levels of classified documents. It is quite permissible to hold these documents outside of a SCIF, but you still need some appropriate level of secure storage. I had many such documents in my locked filing cabinet at work. Note: the lock was NOT bought at Walmart.

I understand. While in the military I handled classified documents in an office setting on occasions but to a man, both democrat and republican congressmen, when recently interviewed, have stated they were not authorized to remove any classified documents.