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Jan 24, 2023 12:51:26   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
https://news.yahoo.com/lawyer-classified-documents-found-mike-172503729.html

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Jan 24, 2023 13:40:41   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Interesting turn of events.
Maybe we should all check our basements for classified documents.

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Jan 24, 2023 13:57:46   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Frank T wrote:
Interesting turn of events.
Maybe we should all check our basements for classified documents.


Just my opinion .
The problem is not pence biden or trump ( other than his obstruction) it is the classification system is out of control.
For example a document that is legitimately classified is noted by name only in a second document then that second document becomes classified also. Out of control AND to many people have been granted clearances . So many that the clearance process is virtually useless

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Jan 24, 2023 14:03:10   #
Triple G
 
It will be interesting to see if McCarthy adds Pence to his investigation!

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Jan 24, 2023 14:15:27   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
IMHO Biden and Pence are in the same rowboat approaching the FBI police boat, while Trump is speeding off in his drug-runner speedboat.

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Jan 24, 2023 14:16:25   #
Triple G
 
JohnFrim wrote:
IMHO Biden and Pence are in the same rowboat approaching the FBI police boat, while Trump is speeding off in his drug-runner speedboat.


Great analogies!

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Jan 24, 2023 15:04:41   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
JohnFrim wrote:
IMHO Biden and Pence are in the same rowboat approaching the FBI police boat, while Trump is speeding off in his drug-runner speedboat.



Right now it's more important that Ticketmaster be investigated.

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Jan 24, 2023 15:10:06   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
DaveO wrote:


Right now it's more important that Ticketmaster be investigated.


Why ?

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Jan 24, 2023 15:12:23   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
DennyT wrote:
Why ?


Went right over your head!

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Jan 24, 2023 15:16:40   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
DaveO wrote:
Went right over your head!


No hopefully a biden or pence investigation would delve into the basic problems of classification itself.

Rather than

Then once again congress diverting our to an investigation of the private industry

Think !!

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Jan 24, 2023 15:28:43   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
DennyT wrote:
No hopefully a biden or pence investigation would delve into the basic problems of classification itself.

Rather than

Then once again congress diverting our to an investigation of the private industry

Think !!


Relax...maybe you'll live longer.

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Jan 24, 2023 15:53:25   #
InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA
 
Frank T wrote:
Interesting turn of events.
Maybe we should all check our basements for classified documents.


When I was growing up we had a complete, bound collection of Army after-action reports on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. These included casualty lists, medical reports, damage photos, and hundreds of graphic victim images. As I recall the books were published in the late 1940s. My father was an officer in the Army medical corps and I asked him about them when I came across them in our garage. He told me he grabbed them when they were being tossed out in the mid1960s. My father was a bit of a pack rat. Every page in multiple books was marked classified. That said, at the time they were tossed they were just old books.

One day while perusing a flee market I came across a set of diesel and electrical manuals for one of our WWII submarines. Again, every page was classified. I should have bought them. This was before eBay. Someone would have loved to buy them from me now at a profit.

I guess the point I'm making is that a lot of this kerfuffle over docs that Trump, Biden, and Pence had at home probably involves time-sensitive information that no longer has any importance to anyone. Of course, we'll never know. What I don't understand is why Biden and Pence didn't just shred what they had. Why even mention it. Trump got dinged for a couple of docs they knew he had and the archives couldn't account for. When he let them look for those, they found the rest. If I'm a Biden staffer, and I come across old, classified documents Joe brought home, I think I just make them disappear forever.

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Jan 24, 2023 22:11:31   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
When I was growing up we had a complete, bound collection of Army after-action reports on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. These included casualty lists, medical reports, damage photos, and hundreds of graphic victim images. As I recall the books were published in the late 1940s. My father was an officer in the Army medical corps and I asked him about them when I came across them in our garage. He told me he grabbed them when they were being tossed out in the mid1960s. My father was a bit of a pack rat. Every page in multiple books was marked classified. That said, at the time they were tossed they were just old books.

One day while perusing a flee market I came across a set of diesel and electrical manuals for one of our WWII submarines. Again, every page was classified. I should have bought them. This was before eBay. Someone would have loved to buy them from me now at a profit.

I guess the point I'm making is that a lot of this kerfuffle over docs that Trump, Biden, and Pence had at home probably involves time-sensitive information that no longer has any importance to anyone. Of course, we'll never know. What I don't understand is why Biden and Pence didn't just shred what they had. Why even mention it. Trump got dinged for a couple of docs they knew he had and the archives couldn't account for. When he let them look for those, they found the rest. If I'm a Biden staffer, and I come across old, classified documents Joe brought home, I think I just make them disappear forever.
When I was growing up we had a complete, bound col... (show quote)


Trump "stole" the government's classified documents, claimed they were his, that he had a right to them, and that he could (if he hadn't already) declassify them at will. He admitted to having taken the documents, he lied about having returned them all, he claimed incorrectly that they were securely stored, and he obstructed justice through not cooperating fully with DOJ in returning them.

He has now created a diversion to take the heat off. Trump's stooges planted those documents at Biden's and Pence's residences. Both Biden and Pence said they did not have classified documents at their homes (Trump admitted he did), and both Biden and Pence said they have no idea how they got there (Trump knew how his got to Mar-a-Lago... he took them there). The smart money says this is all a plot by Trump to get himself off the hook.

At least that is the conspiracy theory that I like... because it is so plausible!

(Just wait... a few more people that Trump no longer likes will have documents at their homes, too.)

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Jan 25, 2023 09:24:07   #
Watash
 
Frank T wrote:
Interesting turn of events.
Maybe we should all check our basements for classified documents.


Someone needs to search Biden's 18-wheeler. Especially the trailer.

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Jan 25, 2023 10:29:14   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
DennyT wrote:
Just my opinion .
The problem is not pence biden or trump ( other than his obstruction) it is the classification system is out of control.
For example a document that is legitimately classified is noted by name only in a second document then that second document becomes classified also. Out of control AND to many people have been granted clearances . So many that the clearance process is virtually useless


Now that it is libs getting busted all of a sudden a change in attitude?

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