Grahame Loc: Fiji

Times move on, what some considered a "great photo" many now consider unappealing and boring.

Bigmike1 Loc: I am from Gaffney, S.C. but live in Utah.

Personally I wouldn't get out of the electric chair for a light meter. I have several hand held meters in my camera collection. I will never use any of them.

delder Loc: Maryland

I DID use external light meters in the day up close to the subject even when the camera had a Match Needle. This was more important when when we had to pay for [AND CARRY] film & development.
I really don't miss using them.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

I’ve seen plenty of bad photos shot on 5x7 film. I will say that back in those days they never got purple fringing in the hair.

OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919

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Yes, I use a flash meter for multiple--light stand flashes. Also I have a color temp meter--even though we can fiddle with color temp in post. It is much better to adjust before the shot for accuracy. Of course many of this UHH site say---just take the photo any which way and depend on their friends from ADOBE?---------ew

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

It is much better to adjust WB when processing the raw file after the shot using a WB target to measure the light color.

E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada

The work of Yosef Karsh is far from forgotten. His books are well-known and well-read and in the library of any serious photograher who is interested in classic portraiture, besides all the regular folks who simply enjoy seeing his portraits of famous people.

I live and work in Ottawa and was familiar with Yosef, Malak Karsh, his brother, a world-class architectural and landscapel photographer, and his Uncle George Nakash (their original Armenian family name) who brought Yosef to Canada and sponsored his photographic education in the United States. Uncle George operated his portrat studio in Montreal and continued in business well into his 90s. My wife's aunt was his retoucher and later took over her father's studio which was established in 1922.

I operated a studio in Montreal, for a time as well, and met George on several occasions. Our professional association, The Corporation of Master Photograhers of Quebec, had a tradition of celebrating George's birthday every year and would hold a party at one of our meetings. We would invite Nephew Yosef to attend and he always responded and would come in and present us with a lecture. The speeches were wonderful- full of philosophy and experiences with celebrities, but never about technical matters.

Some years later, my camera dealer called me and told me that Malic Karsh required my technical help- I was surprised, to say the least. It seemed he transitioned from his trusty 4x5 view camera and purchase a couple of Mamiya RZ 67s- a medium format camera system with a selection of lenses including a tilt/shift model. The cameras were giving him trouble and since I was a user of that system, the dealer thought of sending me over to solve these issues. Malak, his famous brother, was a gracious gentleman and offered me some very strong Turkish coffee. His issue with cameras was easy to solve. I simply reminded him that unlike his trusty old view camer, the RZ would not tolerate being thrust into the trunk of his car, along with the spare tire and lug wrench, and left bouncing over the bumpy road after a shoot. All he needed was a well-padded case and to go easy on the film advance lever. After our session, he asked if he could pay me a consultation fee or do something in return. I replied that it was an honor meeting him and jokingly said, I would gladly settle for sitting in on oneof his "big brother's" portrat sittings. He said, in all seriousness, "I will see what I can do"! About a month later I got the call. I got to see Yosef photographer a Member of the Parlament and an oil company executive. Yosef used an 8x10 Deardorf View camera with a 300mmm Commercial Ektar Lens, a custom-made set of Norman electronic flash units, and Kodak Tri-X Orth Film processed in Pyro- on those two sittings. For color, he used a 4x5 Gowlandflex and a Hasselbald.

These were the last two sessions he did in his studio at the Chateau Laurier Hotel, herein Ottawa, after which he retired. He moved to Boston to be closer to his doctors as he was in failing health. There is a room in that hotel where many of his famous portraits are permintely displayed. His entire collection now resides in the National Archives of Canada.

There are still many practitioners of fine-quality formal portraiture. This is not street photography, photojournalism, or "candid camera" efforts or folks grinning into their cellphone cameras. That stuff is OK too, but ain't classical portraiture.

All this attitude that fine photography is dead and gone is unmitigated nonsense! Some folks find formal portraits boring but everyone does not have the same taste in art, music, food, fashion- whatever. Some years ago, there was a Karsh exhibition in New York City. The art critic for the New York Times wrote a scathing review saying that the subjects looked like "hopeless gargoyles"! I wanted to cancel my subscription but everyone is entitled to their opinions.

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Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL

Very impressive.

E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada

Well! This will teach me NOT to waste my time posting on a thread where a couple of grouches are going at it instead of carrying. on a civil conversation.

Straight talk- What the hell is wrong with you two? Complaining, bitching, and posting nonsensical cartoons. I don't know how old y'all are but I will be 79 next month. If I begin to behave like either of you, I will gladly shoot myself before I inflict that kind of obnoxiousness on others.

Somehow I suspect you both know better so GROW UP!

Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL

If I am one of the grouches, you have me wrong. I meant what I said. It is impressive to me that you had even a casual acquaintance with one of the masters. Sorry if you were offended. I'm 77 as of Jan 17, if it matters to you.

E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada

I was not referring to you! Your post was appreciated, I did not take it as snide to sarcastic. If you wish to make reference to a particular post use the "reply with quote" option" as I did with your post.

I am an "old grouch" too but I usually don't inflict my bad moods on another folk who are trying to enjoy and benefit from online activity- no more than I would do that in person at a meeting or event. Some folks have no manners or regard for anyone else. They give us old guys a bad rap!

Mr.Karsh was no doubt a grand master. Observing him work, revealed to me that his photographic skill was only surpassed by his people skills.

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[quote=OldSchool-WI]For "Ripley's Believe it or not"---light meters now for $350. list $500.00?

Every photographer should have a light meter, for both reflected and incident readings. I have always used Weston meters as did Ansel Adams. I bought my first Weston in probably 1954 and Weston was already on version Weston Master II. I now have a number of them including Western Master, Master II and Master III. I find little difference. I also have the clamp on incident reading light cone that make Weston read both forms of light in high and low ranges, both incident and reflected ligh.

Tonight from B&H email advertisement most of you have also received.
----"Sekonic
L-398A Studio Deluxe 70th Anniversary Edition Light Meter
Save: $150.00 with “Coupon”
(Automatically applied in cart)

You Pay: $348.00

So----do you pay $348 or $150? Is list---$348 or $500?

Does that actually mean the list for a Sektonic--70th aniverary is $500.00--(or $350?)--?

What form of off camera metering does UHH membership use?-----[/quo
Go to KEH or Ebay or other website and get a Gossen Luna pro (best light meter ever made) used, for less than $100.00

OzWizard

Go to Ebay or KEH and find a Gossen Luna Pro light meter for less that $100.00 Best meter ever made.

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Thank you.