JimGray Loc: Albuquerque, New Mexico

JD750 Loc: SoCal

ok.
But the software slider is related to camera ISO is it not? For example +1 on the exposure slider is plus one stop, so that’s 2x the ISO used to capture the frame.

Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY

I share that belief. When I use “Manual” I use it to freeze the exposure I had selected. That is most likely when creating a “panorama” with a prime lens to substitute for a distortion ridden wide angle lens. I would appreciate a quick way to a quick way to copy the exposure settings to Manual other than memory or better a notebook.

I don’t understand the mystique surrounding the Manual mode (or any other mode) for arriving at the exposure for a shot. The camera doesn’t need to know how you arrived at a given exposure. But remember you own the results of your settings. So it is best if you know these settings, only three numbers if you include ISO, are indeed sensible to you. BTW They all appear at the bottom of my viewfinder.

M1911 Loc: DFW Metromess

We would rather owe it to you than cheat you out of it.

JD750 Loc: SoCal

Unfortunately what we believe “should be” and the way cameras are designed are not the same. Can we say cognitive dissonance?

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

The software slider BebuLamar was referring to is the exposure slider in most raw converters. It's used to lighten or darken the image. It's badly named but it's hard to think there's a better name. It lightens/darkens the image proportionately.

On a camera ISO is used to lighten an image that circumstance (available light, action, DOF) forces us to underexpose. It's effect is likewise proportional.

One is a camera function the other is a processing software function but yes they produce similar results.

RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri

I could have sent by Pony Express, but it would have gone through Wyoming, considerably north of you.

Bill_de Loc: US

Nikon Df, Nikkor 105mm AF Micro ... Manual Mode, 1/250, F.4, ISO 800

EC 0, +2, +3, -2, -3

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OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919

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In it's ideal availability the "exposure adjustments" are to correct the baselines of actual "manual adjustments" like "F" stops. If in auto, it might shift the entire mix of the auto setting, well that is different. But taken literally as exposure compensation---it should be setting the "F" stops to accurate baseline with the camera body and, most importantly, the lens system.-----------ew

BurghByrd Loc: Pittsburgh

They are all the same, try it again with the "auto ISO sensitivity control" set to "on" uner >Photo shooting menu >ISO Sensitivity Settings >Auto ISO sensitivity control >ON
I think you'll find that the EC control will adjust ISO to alter the exposure.

epd1947

Ysarex - First of all - why do you feel the need to act like an ass by starting out with an insult? Secondly, not everyone owns the latest camera gear - so my statement that not all cameras allow the use of exposure compensation when in manual mode and with auto ISO is correct. Among the many cameras I own and still use a couple disable exposure comp in this scenario. Some of my other cameras do allow it - so get off your arrogant, know-it-all, attitude.

Bill_de Loc: US

You can do it!

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wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

I have no doubts that you right along with others saying the same. For my manusl shooting, I would also expect to lock in all three exposure elements with no ability to change any of them by using exposure compensation. Obviously my manual mode sets ISO on a setting value, not "Auto". At least now I know of a way of manually setting aperture and shutter and still exposure compensate. One never stops learning. Maybe I would have found it on my own if I shot manual more. C'est la vie.

Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY

I have always thought and hope that the modes we are talking about are the strictly the exposure metering modes which adjust the lens aperture (f/ number), shutter speed (1/seconds or seconds) and “sensor sensitivity” (ISO which is a controversial rabbit hole we had best avoid) which were computed using hand held meters or meters coupled to shutter speed and aperture knobs on film cameras. These modes are usually:

Manual - which the photographer sets the aperture and shutter speed with knobs using metering from external or internal meters or maybe rules of thumb like Sunny 16 or the little papers that came with film.

Shutter priority - which the photographer set the shutter speed based on the intent of the scene and sets the desired ISO (or desired range for Auto ISO). The camera automatically adjusts the aperture according to its metering if possible.

Aperture priority - which the photographer sets the aperture and the camera adjusts the shutter.

Auto - which the camera sets both aperture and shutter according to some program that guesses the appropriate combination. Sooner or later they will employ AI (guesses that sell well) to guess what you want.

Often they add other “modes” to adjust color saturation/vibrance, contrast… to make the picture look “better. These modes do not effect raw files letting you make adjustments. I wouldn’t be surprised if they also set the camera for jpeg only. We are not talking about these modes. If you like these modes use a phone they really do point and shoot well.

Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY

Well, for the last 25ish years of my career I made a good living writing specifications for what I think the customer likes that the hardware and software guys don’t want to do. So was that cognitive dissonance?

I think it would be fun to design my own camera system. I have been retired since 2007 it would be interesting.