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Jan 14, 2023 22:07:13   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
cahale wrote:
Wouldn't it be better how you are perceived by what's hanging on your wall?


It certainly would! But somehow our "identity" gets hung up on brands we are seen using.

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Jan 15, 2023 02:48:44   #
jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania
 
SIMIBILL wrote:
I am considering buying a high-quality mirrorless camera. Being a Canon user for many years, of course, I am considering the Canon R5. But many reviews online say Sony mirrorless cameras are superior, and more lenses, including Tamron and Sigma, are available.
Please share your experience and opinions with me.


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Nikon Z9

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Jan 15, 2023 05:40:33   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
I asked the mirror on the wall....

"Mirror, mirror, on the wall, which is the best mirrorless camera for y'all?"

The mirror replied....

"FOR YOU, the best one is the Fuji XT-5"

I replied...

"Thank you mirror!"

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Jan 15, 2023 08:08:28   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
MDI Mainer wrote:
It would be nice if the Admin developed an algorithm that automatically deleted any post that begins "What is the best brand of . . . . "


Concur!!!
We are now up to nine pages
Best Wishes To The Collective,
JimmyT Sends

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Jan 15, 2023 08:09:53   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
burkphoto wrote:
That is the reality of photography related purchases: the images you create with them.

For many, there is little correlation between equipment ownership and photographic output quality, and that can be a multi-thousand dollar frustration leading to equipment languishing in a closet until the owner dies. In some other cases, photographers punch far above their weight classes with equipment they simply know how to use.


Ouch!!!

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Jan 15, 2023 08:16:45   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Michael Jordon got better in the gym, not in the shoe store.

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Jan 15, 2023 09:41:58   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
SIMIBILL wrote:
I am considering buying a high-quality mirrorless camera. Being a Canon user for many years, of course, I am considering the Canon R5. But many reviews online say Sony mirrorless cameras are superior, and more lenses, including Tamron and Sigma, are available.
Please share your experience and opinions with me.


It is basically a toss up - IF - you can afford and use only R lenses for Canon or G master for Sony.

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Jan 15, 2023 10:38:18   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
Generally speaking, the best camera is the brand you like and have that works for you. In most cases we buy the camera we like get use to it and stay with it. I use Canon but never had a Nikon or Sony etc. so being content and comfortable and never used brand "X" how can I say.
The only advice I can give is go to a store and play around with different cameras.

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Jan 15, 2023 10:40:27   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
burkphoto wrote:
The S5 II is available late this month. The S5 IIx, a more video-centric version, will be released in May.

The S5 II has been reviewed dozens of times on YouTube by many good review sites. Consensus is, it is the best all-around $2000 full frame body you can order at the moment. Well over 100 lenses are available from FIRST party suppliers Leica, Panasonic Lumix, and Sigma, and other suppliers.

I'd at least give it a look, although if sports or wildlife is your main subject matter, the S5 II may not be your pick. But you might spend a LOT more to get great sports and wildlife performance.
The S5 II is available late this month. The S5 IIx... (show quote)

Thank you!

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Jan 15, 2023 10:43:53   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
jlg1000 wrote:
Jpegs?

Of a high end camera?

That gear is intended to shoot RAW, not crappy 8-bit obsolete jpegs.


Did you just say jpegs are crappy? What’s wrong with you. I love my 8 bit jpegs

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Jan 15, 2023 10:56:27   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
bsprague wrote:
It certainly would! But somehow our "identity" gets hung up on brands we are seen using.


I managed to get over that affliction long ago. “Paying for panache is pitiful, whether or not you can afford it,” as the wealthiest guy I ever met once said, back in 1972. Art (he went by Art, never Mr.) often drove an old VW Beetle and wore off-the-rack suits with cheap shirts from the outlet store. His mission was to help the community by donating millions to the local museums, libraries, our church, and several colleges and universities. If you needed something as an individual, he would not normally give it to you, but would show you some potential ways to get it, or lead you to someone who could help. He knew hundreds of influential people. He was fond of the North Carolina state motto, Esse Quam Videre, Latin for, “to be, rather than to seem.” Yet he lived in SC…

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Jan 15, 2023 11:12:30   #
ask4j Loc: MN
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Dont expect ANY consensus here in UHH, LOL.

Everyone will just trumpet their favorite brand and/or the brand they are loyal owners of.

Here is my two cents, and I expect pushback from fanboys of different brands, no problem.

I was a longtime Nikon, Canon and Leica pro user for nearly five decades as a professional photojournalist shooting all subjects around the world including war coverage, then I moved over to Sony mirrorless back In January 2017 and have no regrets. I am also a longtime Professor of Photographer at a state university, having taught hundreds of students in my courses in Photojournalism, Digital Photography, and yes even 35mm B&W film photography. I have both my BFA Degree and Master's Degree in Photography.

Back in 2017, Sony was the ONLY maker with fullframe mirrorless cameras. Sony's A7III success helped push Nikon and Canon into coming out with their own fullframe mirrorless cameras.

IMHO as much as Canon and Nikon have gotten better with their fullframe mirrorless releases, Sony still has the more extensive and proven fullframe mirrorless system and lineup by far.

The Top News Services in the world have all gone to mirrorless cameras in the past 24 months for their staff photographers and staff videographers worldwide.

Associated Press, UK Press, Canadian Press, all Gannett Media including USA Today have gone exclusively to Sony fullframe mirrorless for their staff photographers and staff videographers worldwide. They are using Sony A1, A9II, A7RIVa, A7RV, A7IV, A7SIII, FX3, FX6.

AFP (Agence France Presse) helped develop and test the Nikon Z9 and they use the Z9 for their staffers worldwide.

https://alphauniverse.com/stories/why-the-associated-press-just-switched-to-sony/

https://petapixel.com/2021/11/17/sony-is-now-the-exclusive-camera-provider-for-gannett-and-usa-today/

https://www.dpreview.com/news/4545693607/the-uk-largest-news-agency-partners-with-sony

https://petapixel.com/2022/01/31/canadas-largest-news-organization-moves-exclusively-to-sony-cameras/#:~:text=Canada's%20Largest%20News%20Agency%20Moves%20Exclusively%20to%20Sony%20Cameras,-Jan%2031%2C%202022&text=The%20Canadian%20Press%2C%20the%20largest,provider%20for%20the%20media%20company.

https://petapixel.com/2022/06/09/how-pro-photographers-helped-make-the-z9-from-prototype-to-flagship/

The latest weekly sales from Japan's top camera dealer network, Yodobashi , has the following models as their top ten best sellers:
1) Sony A7IV
2) Sony A7RV
3)Sony FX3
4) Nikon Z9
5)Sony A7C Kit
6) Nikon Z50 Kit
7) Sony A7IV kit
8) Sony ZV-E10
9) Fuji X-T4
10) Fuji X-S10

The Sony E-mount is the most widely produced and most widely used mirrorless lens mount in the world. There are over 200 native E-mount mirrorless-designed lenses from Sony, Sigma, Tamron, Samyang/Rokinon, Tokina, Zeiss, Viltrox, Yongnuo, Meike and others.

Canon has chosen to prohibit third-party lens makers from making any more RF-mount lenses. Already Canon mirrorless sales are down, as photographers around the world react to this restrictive move by Canon. I know this to be more than speculation as I administrate and moderate several Facebook photography groups and many folks around the world have said they have moved away from Canon R cameras for that reasons. Even Canon stalwart youtube reviewers now admit Canon's move is hurting their R series sales.

IMHO, sometimes when you get so big and successful like Canon ,you can lose sight of how best to grow your base.

Nikon has chosen like Sony to open up its Z-mount to Tamron and other third-party lens makers allowing its users to have more affordable and extensive Z-mount lens choices.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sony_E-mount_lenses

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_third-party_Sony_E-mount_lenses

I have owned Sony A6500, A7RII, A7RIII, A7III, A9, and currently own Sony A7RIV, A1, A7SIII . i currently have 13 native E-mount lenses covering 10mm to 600mm from Sony, Sigma and Tamron. i have no personal desire to return to Canon or Canon mirrorless for my professional or personal use.

Use what brand you prefer and be happy. I am more than happy with my Sony gear. Canon sells more total cameras worldwide but half those sales are its DSLRs and compact camera sales. Sony sells no DSLRs. As for Mirrorless, Sony is #1 in the world in both total mirrorless sales and is #1 in fullframe camera sales (DSLR or mirrorless). Sony sells fullframe mirrorless models, A7, A7II, A7S, A7SII, A7RII, A7RIII, A7III, A9, A9II, A7C, A7SIII, A7RIVa, A7IV, A7RV, FX3.

Cheers and best to you.
Dont expect ANY consensus here in UHH, LOL. br br... (show quote)


Thank you--excellent info from a real pro.

I've had many cameras in the last 7 decades--my photography has always been a learning hobby until 2000 when I started selling on-line and learned alot about photographing objects. Currently have a Nikon D3400, has a mirror, that I acquired at an estate auction--some of us don't have it all....and as you imply it's what you do with it not the status quo.

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Jan 15, 2023 12:53:50   #
jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America
 
davyboy wrote:
Did you just say jpegs are crappy? What’s wrong with you. I love my 8 bit jpegs


I also loved my 8-bit Commodore 64 in 1981

Move on, obsolete tech.

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Jan 15, 2023 13:30:14   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jlg1000 wrote:
I also loved my 8-bit Commodore 64 in 1981

Move on, obsolete tech.


There is nothing wrong with JPEGs, other than how some people misuse them.

JPEG is a tool, just as raw data formats are tools. It has its place in the tool box. Used correctly, it can serve a valuable purpose.

JPEG was primarily conceived as an efficient distribution format for finished image files. The idea was to export a JPEG from a TIFF or other bitmap format, and use that to display on the Internet or to order prints from a lab. That was before digital cameras got popular. It was back in the days of expensive storage and expensive network bandwidth and dial-up modems.

When digital cameras were developed, at first there was an absolute need to retrieve and process raw files. But it wasn't long before camera companies put a processor in the camera and saved JPEGs there. They were meant to be previews that would not be post-processed. But users got lazy, and demanded better JPEGs.

Today, we have pretty decent in-camera processors that churn out pretty good JPEGs — if you set the exposure and white balance and other menu parameters correctly. But you still have more control over output when you process a raw file. The bad news is that, because you have that control, you have to process raw files.

Many folks just have an aversion to computers and all the complexity and expense that good post-processing entails.

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Jan 15, 2023 13:43:09   #
bonjac Loc: Santa Ynez, CA 93460
 
I have read through most of the responses here and I must say opinion is the predominant response rather than experience. I'm not sure how you evaluate opinion because it is, more than likely, based on emotion than objectivity. The OP asks a troublesome question because to get any kind of real answer, the responders would have to have used the Canon R5 and its equivalent Sony products for some time in order to make any kind of judgement. My guess is that the number of folks who qualify on this basis is fairly limited and I didn't see any in this thread. So, to me, the question leads to a lot of drivel and piffle. Nothing really learned. To the OP, why not rent the Canon and its equivalent and try them out.

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