What Can Happen When Parks Become Too Popular (Page 3): Coitus Goverruptus...

HOHIMER

Retired CPO wrote:

Government control population growth?? How is that going to happen? You aren't Chinese by chance are you?

Coitus Goverruptus

Tex-s

Just Fred wrote:

Yep. You are now required to make reservations in addition to paying entrance fees to enter some U. S. national parks.

The National Park Service has a program in which they hire public teachers for about 8 weeks in the summer. During that time the educators create or revise educational materials for the Parks Service as well as several other duties. I participated in the program in 2016.

During my application process I was struck by two conflicting goals of the Parks Service. One goal is to expose people to the beauty of nature and to educate those people on the particular ‘nature’ in any particular park. My park is an uplifted ancient reef, where the Grand Canyon boasts an entirely different geology and ‘nature’. However, the second goal of the Parks Service is to preserve these sites. Somewhat mutually exclusive goals…. to bring people in to teach them, but also preserve the natural state of the parks. To that end,it seems all parks have been designed, modified, or restricted to prioritize the second goal.

sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri

Access to public lands is a privilege, not a right. This means that terms of use and conditions of access apply. As "nature lovers" who want to capture the majesty of landscape and wildlife, we know how important it is to preserve and maintain it. Unfortunately, far too many knuckleheads believe it's there for their entertainment as they plow through the wilderness on their off-road vehicles scaring the earth wherever they go.

Trash, debris, smoking, and trampling the ground until there is nothing left to hold the soil in place when it rains resulting in erosion and washing mud into the streams silting them in. We have met the enemy and it is us.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

sippyjug104 wrote:

Access to public lands is a privilege, not a right... (show quote)

BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA

gwilliams6 wrote:

A Lifetime Senior pass still allows free entry to ... (show quote)

Best investment I have eve made!

Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA

Canisdirus wrote:

Thank goodness this has no effect on the wildlife who actually live there...

What does affect wildlife there and in many places are LEDs. I read an article saying light pollution (largely brought about by the brighter and more abundant LEDs) is chasing wildlife farther back into wilderness areas. This is sad for humans because we don't get to view wildlife as readily as we once did, and the other problem is that by pushing the populations into a more densely packed area they are threatened with insufficient food supplies.

Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA

BobHartung wrote:

Best investment I have eve made!

I agree! I was able to get the 10.00-lifetime pass and while I think it has gone up to 25.00, still one heck of a deal.
It also allows three guests to accompany you. I didn't know that until a friend and I visited Fort Pulaski. We stopped at the gate to show my pass and pay for Andy's admission. The ranger said "no charge" and proceeded to explain I could be accompanied by three guests at no charge.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Bridges wrote:

I agree! I was able to get the 10.00-lifetime pass and while I think it has gone up to 25.00, still one heck of a deal.
It also allows three guests to accompany you. I didn't know that until a friend and I visited Fort Pulaski. We stopped at the gate to show my pass and pay for Andy's admission. The ranger said "no charge" and proceeded to explain I could be accompanied by three guests at no charge.

Try $80 for the Lifetime Senior Pass......

Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.

MDI Mainer wrote:

Parks Canada has banned personal vehicles from Mor... (show quote)

That is not the US. To get around this 'problem' in the US all you need is a true Native American. The US Park Service NEVER bars their entry at any time, and for any reason, and at any entry point they desire. Weird but true.

Jagnut07 Loc: South Carolina

Certainly in the US here Covid pushed everyone to the great outdoors and a lot of parks now get full. Here in SC with some of the State parks you have to go online and reserve a parking spot and time which also has a limited time length. Nice to see people getting out and appreciating the great outdoors. But on the other hand it seems like the world has gone crazy.

Jagnut07 Loc: South Carolina

Bridges wrote:

I agree! I was able to get the 10.00-lifetime pass and while I think it has gone up to 25.00, still one heck of a deal.
It also allows three guests to accompany you. I didn't know that until a friend and I visited Fort Pulaski. We stopped at the gate to show my pass and pay for Andy's admission. The ranger said "no charge" and proceeded to explain I could be accompanied by three guests at no charge.

I also got the $10 lifetime pass a few years ago. I understand there is no lifetime pass anymore.

neillaubenthal

Longshadow wrote:

Yup, got mine when it was $10.

Wife and bought a spare each and put them in the safe before they went up…we needed 2 at the time as we lived in the RV and she drive the car separately.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Jagnut07 wrote:

I also got the $10 lifetime pass a few years ago. I understand there is no lifetime pass anymore.

The Senior Lifetime Pass is still available, $80.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

neillaubenthal wrote:

Wife and bought a spare each and put them in the safe before they went up…we needed 2 at the time as we lived in the RV and she drive the car separately.

Good Deal!

My wife wasn't old enough to get one at the time (before) they went up....
But if one goes regularly, even the $80 is good. Four entrances at $20 each pays for it.

Jagnut07 Loc: South Carolina

Longshadow wrote:

The Senior Lifetime Pass is still available, $80.

OK good. That’s still a good deal at $80.