Your keep going back explaining an answer that is not being contested.
The issue at hand is
not print/output sufficiency after processing the image.
It is getting a JPEG SOOC similar to a Post adjusted RAW
Ysarex wrote:
The HDR "pulling" isn't done because of limitations imposed by the JPEG format. JPEG's bit depth and compression are not limiting factors.
With reference to SOOC JPEG, Pulling is done because they will not be there because of JPEGS limitations.
Ysarex wrote:
No, the bit depth and compression used by the JPEG algorithm is not the limiting factor.
Yes it is. Bit depth & Jpeg compression.
Bit depth is not a measurement of dynamic range, but bit depth limits how wide a dynamic range it can represent. If Jpeg compression is not lossy, i will agree with you.
Ysarex wrote:
You just said as much; Today's cameras often provide some form of HDR processing that may make the photo better.
Given as proof that your previous statement is false. Camera processing power do not limit the quality of Jpeg. And my exact words are "it would not always make the photo better".
Ysarex wrote:
That better photo is then saved as a final JPEG. JPEG's file structure is sufficient to save that photo.
Firstly, which better photo? I am speaking about in-camera HDR SOOC JPEG, you are speaking of Post processed image saved as JPEG. We are not talking about the same subject.
Second, you are again insisting a process. We are not discussing
print/output sufficiency after manual post processing. The issue is how to get a high dynamic range JPEG SOOC. Dont change the subject.
Ysarex wrote:
Consider: two of my cameras provide an option to save TIFF files instead of JPEG files. Changing the format from JPEG to TIFF in no way extends or alters what those cameras can do when capturing high dynamic range scenes.
Having no access to those cameras, I'll take you word for it even though I'm very much in doubt.
Save is the end of process and will not affect nor alter what a camera did beforehand.
That aside, TIFF (Tag Image File Format) is like a container file that can contain other files, meta data and even file compression. It might be that the TIFF is just storing within it the same JPEG image. If it does, why expect a difference in dynamic range?