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Dec 9, 2022 09:01:33   #
superdadplano Loc: Dallas, TX
 
worldcycle wrote:
I am looking for a pocket camera for travel. I would like something with a larger than 1" sensor and a zoom lens is really not all that important. I am thinking about the Sony DSC-RX1R II. With 42 mega pixels I can probably crop to a reasonable size if need be. Would appreciate input on the pros and cons of the camera from those of you who own one. Thanks in advance.


Great choice! But not for action as focus is slow, especially in low light. I would also consider Fuji X-T30 or X-S10 with 27mm lens

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Dec 9, 2022 09:37:45   #
n4jee Loc: New Bern, NC
 
You said your parka has large pockets. How about the Sony A6600 with the 15-50mm pancake lens. Full APSC 24mp.

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Dec 9, 2022 09:45:16   #
IzzyKap Loc: Rockville, MD
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Personally, for a "pocket sized" travel camera, this is a $3200 waste of money as it won't fit in your pocket. My 20MP Powershot GX9II really does fix in my pocket and takes wonderful images, only missing the ability to change to specialized lenses like a larger interchangeable lens camera.


In my view, the main problem with the Canon Powershot is a lack of viewfinder. On a bright day, it becomes very difficult to see what you are trying to capture. I gave one to my wife and she hardly uses for that reason. For a pocket camera, I use Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 VII. It fits in a pocket and has a focal length 24-200 (35 mm equivalent), but is about double price of Canon Powershot.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1496248-REG/sony_dscrx100m7_b_cyber_shot_dsc_rx100_vii_digital.html

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Dec 9, 2022 10:02:05   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
IzzyKap wrote:
In my view, the main problem with the Canon Powershot is a lack of viewfinder. On a bright day, it becomes very difficult to see what you are trying to capture. I gave one to my wife and she hardly uses for that reason. For a pocket camera, I use Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 VII. It fits in a pocket and has a focal length 24-200 (35 mm equivalent), but is about double price of Canon Powershot.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1496248-REG/sony_dscrx100m7_b_cyber_shot_dsc_rx100_vii_digital.html
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It can be a weakness. Not one that stops me. I mentioned different skills. Being digital, one can shoot, review, repeat until satisfied, or just confident you have a good version to work with later.

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Dec 9, 2022 10:12:23   #
Wanderer2 Loc: Colorado Rocky Mountains
 
IzzyKap wrote:
In my view, the main problem with the Canon Powershot is a lack of viewfinder. On a bright day, it becomes very difficult to see what you are trying to capture. I gave one to my wife and she hardly uses for that reason. For a pocket camera, I use Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 VII. It fits in a pocket and has a focal length 24-200 (35 mm equivalent), but is about double price of Canon Powershot.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1496248-REG/sony_dscrx100m7_b_cyber_shot_dsc_rx100_vii_digital.html
In my view, the main problem with the Canon Powers... (show quote)


Agree. I have the Sony RX100 VI and the IQ is outstanding for a pocketable camera, IMHO. I also use it as a backup camera to my FF DSLR for landscape photography and the results are often as good as the DSLR. Downside is the price. I found a mint used VI for $600, couldn't afford new.

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Dec 9, 2022 10:24:20   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
Over the last 15 years, on trips that were not photography workshops, I went from a Canon 7d2 with a kit lens and 70-300 to a Sony a6000 with 18-55 & 55-210 to the same Sony with 24-105 to a Powershot G16 and SX60. All the combinations except the last got heavier as the day got longer. Finally, my current travel kit is a Canon G1x iii and G3x (with EVF). Often the G3x stays in the room/cabin since it’s reserved mainly for those more distant shots. The G1x iii has a APS-C sensor and 24-70 equiv lens, which even in the trips going back captured 80%+ of the images I wanted. Occasionally, I wish the lens was a little brighter but that’s my only grumble. Initially, it was priced at over a $1000 (which was IMHO ridiculous). Today, refurbished, Canon often sells it for about $600 (like right now).

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Dec 9, 2022 10:37:40   #
jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America
 
whitehall wrote:
I quite agree a 1”” sensor just does not cut it. I have a sony rx100 va and I am consistently under impressed I purchased an Olympus 4/3 and the IQ is much better. Obviously not up to my R5 but then much lighter when travelling . Question of priorities Weight v Quality.


Hmmm... I've got a RX100III, and - while not on par with my A7C - am *very* pleased with the results. optics are great, resolution at 20 MP is OK, IBIS is OK, DR is OK, 12 bit readout is OK and on same tear as many FF cameras.

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Dec 9, 2022 12:33:35   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
The Sony RX is an excellent choice but if full frame is your desire then the smallest FF and currently at an excellent price is the Sigma FP. https://www.sigmaphoto.com/cameras/sigma-fp-bundle It now uses the L mount so you can also use Panasonic or if you have the $$$$ Leica lenses besides Sigma lenses.

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Dec 9, 2022 15:07:33   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Why do people spend 10s of thousands on cameras but refuse to take them on trips where the camera they spent thousands on sits in a closet and only comes out for grandkids visiting.
Just this topic repeated over and over seems insane.


Please don’t respond jus go on bye!

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Dec 9, 2022 16:07:48   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
jlg1000 wrote:
Hmmm... I've got a RX100III, and - while not on par with my A7C - am *very* pleased with the results. optics are great, resolution at 20 MP is OK, IBIS is OK, DR is OK, 12 bit readout is OK and on same tear as many FF cameras.

Are you shooting RAW ??


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Dec 9, 2022 16:52:24   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I do just fine with my G9XII. It's not 1:1 to a full-frame camera, but it's in no way inferior.


And I do just fine with my Canon G7X II when I choose to use it. It has a 1 inch sensor. If you get into pixel peeping, it doesn't go head to head with my D850 or my D810 before that, but in most cases, the photos are just fine. These photos are jpegs SOOC. I have to camera adjusted to increase sharpening a bit. That's all. Anything wrong with these pictures? Go ahead and do some pixel peeping. You might be surprised.


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Dec 9, 2022 17:23:55   #
Kishka Loc: Grafton, WI
 
That Zeiss lens on the RX1 only qualifies as a "pocket" camera if you have large coat pockets. It is a deliberate camera, requiring thought and good techniques which will reward you with wonderful photos. My recent trip included the RX1R plus a A6300 with the 18-105mm lens, both carried in the smaller Domke F-10 JD. Most of my shots were with the RX1, the examples are SOOC.

If you're OK with a fixed lens, the Ricoh GR is very pocket friendly.


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Dec 9, 2022 18:07:55   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
wdross wrote:
For me, the fact it does not have an interchangeable lens at $3300 is a no starter. Yes, it is a travel style camera but doubtful that it will fit a standard pocket. There are alternatives.

Unfortunately the OM TG-6 has a small sensor. Definitely pocketable, waterproof, RAW, and quite a capable camera. Quite a good camera for travel at $500. I would still suggest it as a possibility.

A better 4/3rds possibility would be the OM-5 with the 12-45 f4 Pro (24-90 in 35mm terms). Yes, still not pocketable. But the sensor is bigger than 1" and the zoom would help from having to crop almost every image. Weatherproof, more than 5 stops of IS, capable of 1/2 lifesize images, and upgrade lenses are smaller, lighter, and less costly. Cost is $1600 in either black or silver. There are UHHers that basically use this setup as their travel camera system.

And there are other brands and cameras that will also be better suited as a travel camera and cheaper.
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I also love my TG -6 for outdoors bad environments like kayaking, rain, snow

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Dec 9, 2022 18:12:26   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
therwol wrote:
And I do just fine with my Canon G7X II when I choose to use it. It has a 1 inch sensor. If you get into pixel peeping, it doesn't go head to head with my D850 or my D810 before that, but in most cases, the photos are just fine. These photos are jpegs SOOC. I have to camera adjusted to increase sharpening a bit. That's all. Anything wrong with these pictures? Go ahead and do some pixel peeping. You might be surprised.


Why do people need to pixel peek your family and friends would never notice

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Dec 9, 2022 18:42:04   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
davyboy wrote:
Why do people need to pixel peek your family and friends would never notice


Two points.

1. A 1 inch sensor will not give the same results as a full frame sensor under close scrutiny.

2. It doesn't matter most of the time. I invited people to pixel peep my 1 inch sensor pictures to really see that there isn't much missing. You're right. It doesn't matter to friends and family. Where it does matter to me is that a high resolution, full frame sensor gives me more cropping options. The price is weight and bulk when traveling. The OP is trying to get away from that.

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