Cellfone cameras vs DSLR ! (Page 10): Burkphoto, In the early 80’s, I was a rep for a computer company that sold large systems to newspapers. The Los Angeles Times was one of my...

coolhanduke Loc: Redondo Beach, CA

Burkphoto,
In the early 80’s, I was a rep for a computer company that sold large systems to newspapers.
The Los Angeles Times was one of my accounts. At the time they had the worlds largest editorial system with close to 400 computer terminals connected to it. All were “dumb” terminals and their computing power came from the main frame.
They had a totally redundant system on the other side of a firewall for fault tolerance. Their investment was over $20 million and they spent about $10 mil a year on add on’s.
The disk drives were CDC 300 megabyte drives(about 20 of them) costing $20,000 each.
Through the years I watched that department shrink because they started to introduce Apple macs.
Sports department went digital with Nikon 1 megapixel cameras costing $20,000 each.
Fast forward to today. My iPhone 14 Pro has more computing power than their mainframe. Much more megapixels than their Nikons.
Point being, what will tomorrow bring?
And there are setting in the phone to control exposure. I need to read the manual.

coolhanduke Loc: Redondo Beach, CA

Thank you!

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

coolhanduke wrote:

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Heck, it records 48 MP raw files!

I’ll buy one after the holidays.

bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri

Smart phones are cool because they can do so many different things. Over the decades I’ve run enough farm machinery and shop tools to know that machines, as well as people, can either do a lot of things adequately or a few things well. For example, only after I quit row cropping and focused on hay and livestock as I able to do a good raising livestock. Before, too many things demanded my attention all at the same time.

Multi use tools can have multiple uses but invariably do nothing really well. The Swiss Army knife is a good example.

Smartphones will no doubt continue getting better but never will they do as good a job as a one or two purpose camera will (photography and or video). Somehow I doubt we will ever see a National Geographic photographer using a smartphone to shoot a pack of African lions taking down and eating a zebra.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

bikinkawboy wrote:

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Yup, I don't believe phone cameras will be doing 10-20 Frames/second any time soon.
I do a lot of apps on my phone, it's nice.
They have their advantages though.

BebuLamar

Longshadow wrote:

Yup, I don't believe phone cameras will be doing 10-20 Frames/second any time soon.
I do a lot of apps on my phone, it's nice.
They have their advantages though.

I don't know but high frame rate is relatively easy to implement on a phone. More so than with a DSLR. The DSLR has the mirror and the shutter which are difficult to make them move very fast. What difficult to do with a phone is real long optics. Right now they tend to use sensor with a lot of pixels then crop.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

BebuLamar wrote:

I don't know but high frame rate is relatively easy to implement on a phone. More so than with a DSLR. The DSLR has the mirror and the shutter which are difficult to make them move very fast. What difficult to do with a phone is real long optics. Right now they tend to use sensor with a lot of pixels then crop.

I suppose, being shutter-less.

Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.

I wish people would start using their heads, DSLR's are old technology........question is are they better than mirrorless

joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois

petercbrandt wrote:

What a prediction by Sony CEO: by 2024 cellphone cameras will be better than DSLR cameras!
Is it scary ?

https://petapixel.com/2022/05/31/smartphone-cameras-will-be-superior-to-slrs-by-2024-says-sony-ceo/

Not scary...I'm excited about it. Keep in mind the camera is just one feature of a smartphone...I wonder how rest of the phone will perform.

coolhanduke Loc: Redondo Beach, CA

The new 3.0 firmware release for the z9 has increased the fps to 60 fps.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

coolhanduke wrote:

The new 3.0 firmware release for the z9 has increased the fps to 60 fps.

Wow, considering movies are 24fps.
Starting to approach high speed photography?

So, how many instances would the average person need more than, lets say 10 fps?
Or is it just the faster (bigger) the better syndrome.
I suppose .017 seconds between shots is much better than just .1 seconds between shots.

BebuLamar

Longshadow wrote:

Wow, considering movies are 24fps.
Starting to approach high speed photography?

So, how many instances would the average person need more than, lets say 10 fps?
Or is it just the faster (bigger) the better syndrome.
I suppose .017 seconds between shots is much better than just .1 seconds between shots.

Yes! For many 10fps isn't enough if they want to shoot burst and pick out the right one. Since I never use the continuous mode 5fps is enough for me. That's how fast my finger can move. The fact is that they photograph things they do not see.

JeffR Loc: Rehoboth Beach, Delaware

For taking selfies, they already are better. Whether you can make the general statement that they are better depends entirely on what you are trying to do with them.

coolhanduke Loc: Redondo Beach, CA

I use high frames per second rates when I photograph Drag Racing. When a top fuel dragster goes 330+ m.p.h. down 1000 feet in under 4 seconds. If the engine blows you want to have as many frames as you can get.
I also use high rates when I photograph my formation flying team. Then I pick the best shot out of the sequence.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

JeffR wrote:

For taking selfies, they already are better. Whether you can make the general statement that they are better depends entirely on what you are trying to do with them.