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Nov 12, 2022 08:31:52   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
david vt wrote:
Hi

Looking for help from fellow hogs whom have experience with the Cannon product line, and in particular older used models. This is for my daughter. I am a Nikon shooter and am not well versed in “Cannon”

After taking a year long photography/videography course at school, she would like to continue to work on her craft(s). Both “modes” are important for her. In both, she is more focused on people/actors and some indoor and some outdoor. No sports, no landscapes, no birding. Maybe a bit of macro (eg-jewelry for sale on poshmark) and streetscapes, but that’s about it. 100% shared via social media, etc. Never prints, so I am not sure ultra high MP is needed.

She used in the class, and is comfortable with, the EOS 60D from Cannon. She has also tried a Cannon 40D and my Nikon D7200. Neither she liked as much.

So, thinking about the 60D for a Christmas present and would like opinions from those who know the Cannon line and older used models. Was hopeful that, if you all confirm the 60D is reasonable (OK, not a horrible..) choice, I can find one on the used market as people upgrade to mirrorless and look to unload their old equipment.

Two final notes.
A) She is 17, which means her focus (pun intended) can shift month to month. Therefore, I don’t want to go towards a brand new Camera or mirrorless (sorry Paul) as who knows what she will be into two years from now. If she continues and finds herself limited by equipment at that point, we can upgrade then.
B) One reason she is looking at the Cannon line is we have two inherited cannon lens from Grandma: a 28-135 and a 70-300. Is still need to understand compatibility, but if they are, this means just a 60D body would be needed.

All thoughts welcome. If there is another model other than the 60D you would recommend, please explain what features you think would make it better for her use.

Thank you in advance
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At this stage of digital cameras, it is very difficult not to recommend the now available R10 - but you would need an adapter to use the older DSLR lenses.

In the DSLR arena, the older 60D is capable - I used one for several years - but there are better/newer options - notably, T8i, 80D, or the ultra compact/light SL3.
For lenses, I can highly recommend the Sigma 17-70 2.8-4 Contemporary - https://www.ebay.com/itm/155252343324?hash=item2425c2c21c:g:vPIAAOSwompjbuYg&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoDdUopMYnT7lx5M0XUYV6qnJjacC6OLl5Yawk2QjIVJEeBimUI%2BxoqCMKpbQAFRog0z5FJZF6stT404qRnob1hQAnBKa7zZ9lCDXEOsmkgEywhQ3QT4xlTLmGSpJxYuRWrS7jXai%2BZRS2helq84Vzo6P85En%2F8qpztSeEL7Ilsp4iEhhDTvd1DNKf2KC%2FfawhVLA8eNnrXtWv%2FzllyUoJQc%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7jUjsCNYQ

f5.6/6.3 lenses are so limiting in lower light situations - this f2.8-4 lens mitigates that !
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Nov 12, 2022 09:29:09   #
BebuLamar
 
david vt wrote:
hi Paul.

thank you for the quick and through reply, and including thoughts on these two lenses.

Is there a good “authoritative” site where I can send her to compare 60D vs 70D vs 80D?

As a 17 y.o., she doesn’t want to admit Dad could possibly know anything. 🤪


In my opinion a 17 y.o. considers a 12 year old anything is junk.

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Nov 12, 2022 09:50:29   #
david vt Loc: Vermont
 
To all: thank you for the comments and recommendations. Quite helpful.

While she, like all teens, posts stills and video extensively from her cell phone, she wants something more. While she likes my Nikon D7200, she is also “afraid” to take it out much as she does not want to risk dropping, breaking or losing it. She knows how much I love that camera. Even with her relatively newer iphone, she does want to do more and likes editing RAW in LR, etc. If i can make a small investment, especially having two starter lenses to get her going, seems worthwhile to allow her to continue learning

Where I ended up. While I funneled all of this to her, my reading of reviews and comparisons (Thanks Paul), along with all of your comments, looks like the extra $$ to go to the 80D would likely be a good choice. AF, both photo and video, greatly improved. Native .mp4 capability. 24MP. the one all-around 26-135 we already have would be a good “walk-around” lens to start, and we can pick up a wider or macro lens if she wants.

So, thank you all for taking the time to post

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Nov 12, 2022 09:54:14   #
david vt Loc: Vermont
 
Otis wrote:
For starters it is Canon.


Dear Otis.

My apologies if my spelling of Canon offended your pedantic senses to the point you felt you needed to post a reply to all calling it out.

In my defense, I was writing quickly before leaving for work and had not had my morning coffee….. 😕

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Nov 12, 2022 10:21:08   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
david vt wrote:
To all: thank you for the comments and recommendations. Quite helpful.

While she, like all teens, posts stills and video extensively from her cell phone, she wants something more. While she likes my Nikon D7200, she is also “afraid” to take it out much as she does not want to risk dropping, breaking or losing it. She knows how much I love that camera. Even with her relatively newer iphone, she does want to do more and likes editing RAW in LR, etc. If i can make a small investment, especially having two starter lenses to get her going, seems worthwhile to allow her to continue learning

Where I ended up. While I funneled all of this to her, my reading of reviews and comparisons (Thanks Paul), along with all of your comments, looks like the extra $$ to go to the 80D would likely be a good choice. AF, both photo and video, greatly improved. Native .mp4 capability. 24MP. the one all-around 26-135 we already have would be a good “walk-around” lens to start, and we can pick up a wider or macro lens if she wants.

So, thank you all for taking the time to post
To all: thank you for the comments and recommenda... (show quote)


Most excellent choice, she will love it and if she does go further all her lenses will be compatible with the current RF mount cameras so NO fear of getting an old EF lens that does not work on the RF mount cameras. No compatibility matrixes needed.

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Nov 12, 2022 10:23:45   #
nmw1004 Loc: Dresher PA
 
I bought a used 80 D about a year ago. Its a really nice camera and has most of the bells and whistles of the newer models. It's not something she will outgrow quickly if she gets into photography.

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Nov 12, 2022 16:06:35   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
david vt wrote:
Hi

Looking for help from fellow hogs whom have experience with the Cannon product line, and in particular older used models. This is for my daughter. I am a Nikon shooter and am not well versed in “Cannon”

After taking a year long photography/videography course at school, she would like to continue to work on her craft(s). Both “modes” are important for her. In both, she is more focused on people/actors and some indoor and some outdoor. No sports, no landscapes, no birding. Maybe a bit of macro (eg-jewelry for sale on poshmark) and streetscapes, but that’s about it. 100% shared via social media, etc. Never prints, so I am not sure ultra high MP is needed.

She used in the class, and is comfortable with, the EOS 60D from Cannon. She has also tried a Cannon 40D and my Nikon D7200. Neither she liked as much.

So, thinking about the 60D for a Christmas present and would like opinions from those who know the Cannon line and older used models. Was hopeful that, if you all confirm the 60D is reasonable (OK, not a horrible..) choice, I can find one on the used market as people upgrade to mirrorless and look to unload their old equipment.

Two final notes.
A) She is 17, which means her focus (pun intended) can shift month to month. Therefore, I don’t want to go towards a brand new Camera or mirrorless (sorry Paul) as who knows what she will be into two years from now. If she continues and finds herself limited by equipment at that point, we can upgrade then.
B) One reason she is looking at the Cannon line is we have two inherited cannon lens from Grandma: a 28-135 and a 70-300. Is still need to understand compatibility, but if they are, this means just a 60D body would be needed.

All thoughts welcome. If there is another model other than the 60D you would recommend, please explain what features you think would make it better for her use.

Thank you in advance
Hi br br Looking for help from fellow hogs whom h... (show quote)


I have the 70D and 90D as well as the 28-135 lens. I have been very happy with all three. Before those I had a Canon T3i - it was definitely one of the best cameras I owned. My granddaughter is currently enjoying it very much.

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Nov 12, 2022 16:51:53   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
My 80D with the 18-135 USM covers most situations most effectively: Close, distance, low light, etc., etc.

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Nov 12, 2022 17:14:13   #
Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
 
I use a Canon 60D with Sigma Contemporary lenses. I have found it to be a very capable camera. My go to lens is the Sigma 18-250 Contemporary lens.
The lenses used are probably more important than the camera. A beginning photographer can learn a lot with this camera and produce some very good photos.
Be aware it is a crop sensor camera so it stretches the telephoto effects of a lens but for wide angle shots, you will need a slightly shorter focal length. Multiply the focal length used by 1.6 to get the full frame equivalent.
Being a crop sensor camera, it is a little weak in low light conditions making noise more of an issue but modern post processing software can compensate for that.
The time to look for the latest top of the line camera is when you yurn pro, not when you are just beginning. (UNLESS: you have very deep pockets!)

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Nov 12, 2022 17:51:11   #
junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA
 
david vt wrote:
Hi

Looking for help from fellow hogs whom have experience with the Cannon product line, and in particular older used models. This is for my daughter. I am a Nikon shooter and am not well versed in “Cannon”

After taking a year long photography/videography course at school, she would like to continue to work on her craft(s). Both “modes” are important for her. In both, she is more focused on people/actors and some indoor and some outdoor. No sports, no landscapes, no birding. Maybe a bit of macro (eg-jewelry for sale on poshmark) and streetscapes, but that’s about it. 100% shared via social media, etc. Never prints, so I am not sure ultra high MP is needed.

She used in the class, and is comfortable with, the EOS 60D from Cannon. She has also tried a Cannon 40D and my Nikon D7200. Neither she liked as much.

So, thinking about the 60D for a Christmas present and would like opinions from those who know the Cannon line and older used models. Was hopeful that, if you all confirm the 60D is reasonable (OK, not a horrible..) choice, I can find one on the used market as people upgrade to mirrorless and look to unload their old equipment.

Two final notes.
A) She is 17, which means her focus (pun intended) can shift month to month. Therefore, I don’t want to go towards a brand new Camera or mirrorless (sorry Paul) as who knows what she will be into two years from now. If she continues and finds herself limited by equipment at that point, we can upgrade then.
B) One reason she is looking at the Cannon line is we have two inherited cannon lens from Grandma: a 28-135 and a 70-300. Is still need to understand compatibility, but if they are, this means just a 60D body would be needed.

All thoughts welcome. If there is another model other than the 60D you would recommend, please explain what features you think would make it better for her use.

Thank you in advance
Hi br br Looking for help from fellow hogs whom h... (show quote)


I have had excellent results from my 80D. I enjoy street photography etc.


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Nov 12, 2022 18:00:20   #
david vt Loc: Vermont
 
Thank you all. Will see what she decides

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Nov 12, 2022 18:05:54   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Brian in Whitby wrote:
I use a Canon 60D with Sigma Contemporary lenses. I have found it to be a very capable camera. My go to lens is the Sigma 18-250 Contemporary lens.
The lenses used are probably more important than the camera. A beginning photographer can learn a lot with this camera and produce some very good photos.
Be aware it is a crop sensor camera so it stretches the telephoto effects of a lens but for wide angle shots, you will need a slightly shorter focal length. Multiply the focal length used by 1.6 to get the full frame equivalent.
Being a crop sensor camera, it is a little weak in low light conditions making noise more of an issue but modern post processing software can compensate for that.
The time to look for the latest top of the line camera is when you yurn pro, not when you are just beginning. (UNLESS: you have very deep pockets!)
I use a Canon 60D with Sigma Contemporary lenses. ... (show quote)


Remember, she is into video as much as stills.
The 80D excells at both compared to the 60D and Rebel cameras.

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Nov 13, 2022 00:03:48   #
dick ranez
 
There’s a post here under for sale for a t3i with two lenses for couple of hundred bucks. Good alternative to 60D at good price. Add a “nifty 50” for a hundred and you have all a beginner would need - and you can use grandma’s lenses.

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Nov 13, 2022 00:59:12   #
Doc Mck Loc: Terrell,Texas
 
Fonda cheap 60D excellent condition as she has fixated on this and wants that specific camera. If her interest intensifies then you can always trade up. I have 4 daughters. And a wife. When they make their minds up, nothing else will work.

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Nov 13, 2022 00:59:53   #
Doc Mck Loc: Terrell,Texas
 
Doc Mck wrote:
Find a cheap 60D excellent condition as she has fixated on this and wants that specific camera. If her interest intensifies then you can always trade up. I have 4 daughters. And a wife. When they make their minds up, nothing else will work.

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