Sony A1 vs iPhone 14
Nov 5, 2022 09:18:48 #
Nov 5, 2022 10:04:55 #
I keep following these iPhone threads because we are about to spend 3 weeks in Europe, a lot of train travel and some Christmas markets. Bought a 14 Pro, and still deciding whether to leave my Sony RX10IV home--the quality is that close. The obvious difference is the 600mm reach with the Sony. Phone cameras were called "garbage" because they won't capture a bird in flight at 500 yards, which is true, but it doesn't require 20 lbs of gear plus a tripod to capture "all the shots" you might want to bring home. I switched to the Sony RX10 not because it was better than my Canon, but because I got the 24-600 lens without carrying multiple lenses and hoping I had the right one in place when the moment arrived. If you are only able or willing to carry one tool, a Swiss Army Knife isn't a bad choice, and cam phones are definitely that. I'm talking myself into the 14 Pro only. Side note, about 3 years ago my wife and I went to see the Northern Lights--I spent hours with a tripod, using multiple settings and got some great pics--my wife used an iPhone 11, did some point and shoot, and also got some great pics, capable of being printed up to at least 16x24 which is my printer's limit.
Nov 5, 2022 10:34:39 #
The best camera is the one you have with you. The iPhone is always there, so no additional weight or space. The raw picture size for the 48mp is 70-90 mb as compared with under 1mb to less than 3mb for the 12 pm jpeg.
It’s a lot of money for a phone but not bad for a good (not great) camera. Overkill for family snaps, and not good enough for great landscape or tele animal prints.
My wife and I love it. I’d rather have a Leica.
This one is 12mp, less than 1mb.
It’s a lot of money for a phone but not bad for a good (not great) camera. Overkill for family snaps, and not good enough for great landscape or tele animal prints.
My wife and I love it. I’d rather have a Leica.
This one is 12mp, less than 1mb.
Nov 5, 2022 10:40:10 #
billnikon wrote:
When a phone can shoot an Osprey at the moment just before it hits the water at 50 yards at 30 fps , 4000 sec. at f4, and at 50 megs RAW, I will buy one. Until then, they are garbage when compared to my a1 with a 600 f4 attached.
Nov 5, 2022 10:57:44 #
What you love about iphone photos is due to a great deal of computational AI being applied, to make up for the small sensor sizes and small lens sizes.
As more of this AI comes to fullframe cameras, the gap in ultimate resolution and detail will widen, not narrow between the two sizes of cameras.
None of this means anything if you are happy with the convenience and the quality you get out of your iphone images with their compact Sony cameras inside.
For many of the subjects I shoot, just like Billnikon, no iphone can do what my A1 can do, just a fact.
Since I mainly use my smartphone as a phone and a mobile connection to the internet, I do carry it most places with me. So in a pinch I can make a shot if needed, but it is never my first choice for serious photography.
For me personally, I prefer more hands-on control over my camera and lens settings, a greater range of creative choices, and with a wider selection of top quality lenses.
But what works and matters to me, doesn't mean it is the same for you. Would I ever go on a once-in-a-lifetime trip with just a smartphone as my only camera, never. But if that works for you, go for it , be happy and good luck.
Cheers and best to you all.
As more of this AI comes to fullframe cameras, the gap in ultimate resolution and detail will widen, not narrow between the two sizes of cameras.
None of this means anything if you are happy with the convenience and the quality you get out of your iphone images with their compact Sony cameras inside.
For many of the subjects I shoot, just like Billnikon, no iphone can do what my A1 can do, just a fact.
Since I mainly use my smartphone as a phone and a mobile connection to the internet, I do carry it most places with me. So in a pinch I can make a shot if needed, but it is never my first choice for serious photography.
For me personally, I prefer more hands-on control over my camera and lens settings, a greater range of creative choices, and with a wider selection of top quality lenses.
But what works and matters to me, doesn't mean it is the same for you. Would I ever go on a once-in-a-lifetime trip with just a smartphone as my only camera, never. But if that works for you, go for it , be happy and good luck.
Cheers and best to you all.
Nov 5, 2022 11:02:07 #
Although I found the iPhone great for snapshots and some zoom in shots, I did pull out my D850 with 200-500mm and Z9 with 24-120 to take pictures of some wildlife too far away for the iPhone.
So what I am saying is, dont regret leaving your 24-600mm behind during a 3 week trip to Europe.
Also. The reflective issue with the phone screen eliminates any “spontaneous” ability for the moment.
Also, try to buy a small phone gimble to help steady the phone.
Just sayin.
So what I am saying is, dont regret leaving your 24-600mm behind during a 3 week trip to Europe.
Also. The reflective issue with the phone screen eliminates any “spontaneous” ability for the moment.
Also, try to buy a small phone gimble to help steady the phone.
Just sayin.
Nov 5, 2022 11:04:45 #
coolhanduke wrote:
I just got back from spending a week in Gettysburg, PA.
Almost exclusively shot with my iPhone 14 Pro to give it a workout for comparison photos taken with my Z9.
I was very pleased with the iPhone results. All of these shots are with the iPhone 14 Pro.
The big issue I had was when photographing with sun behind me, the screen was very difficult to see.
It would be nice if Hoodman would come out with some sort of shade.
Almost exclusively shot with my iPhone 14 Pro to give it a workout for comparison photos taken with my Z9.
I was very pleased with the iPhone results. All of these shots are with the iPhone 14 Pro.
The big issue I had was when photographing with sun behind me, the screen was very difficult to see.
It would be nice if Hoodman would come out with some sort of shade.
Great shots of a beautiful and historic area.
Nov 5, 2022 11:14:14 #
Sony's own best smartphone, the Experia 1 IV ,takes a slightly different approach, with real Sony camera features like Eye-AF, a true optical zoom, 20 fps , AI tracking, 4K 120 HDR video, full manual exposure controls when you want, and use as a full monitor and controller over Sony fullframe cameras in both still shooting and video recording. It is priced accordingly.
https://www.sony-asia.com/electronics/smartphones/xperia-1m4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZOJbWMx9yI
Cheers and best to you.
https://www.sony-asia.com/electronics/smartphones/xperia-1m4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZOJbWMx9yI
Cheers and best to you.
Nov 5, 2022 11:21:39 #
Nov 5, 2022 11:26:30 #
coolhanduke wrote:
I just got back from spending a week in Gettysburg, PA.
Almost exclusively shot with my iPhone 14 Pro to give it a workout for comparison photos taken with my Z9.
I was very pleased with the iPhone results. All of these shots are with the iPhone 14 Pro.
The big issue I had was when photographing with sun behind me, the screen was very difficult to see.
It would be nice if Hoodman would come out with some sort of shade.
Almost exclusively shot with my iPhone 14 Pro to give it a workout for comparison photos taken with my Z9.
I was very pleased with the iPhone results. All of these shots are with the iPhone 14 Pro.
The big issue I had was when photographing with sun behind me, the screen was very difficult to see.
It would be nice if Hoodman would come out with some sort of shade.
Lovely shots, cheers
Nov 5, 2022 11:44:39 #
I really like having my iPhone with me at all times. But - if I ever anticipate needing a telephoto, or enlarging the photos, I want my full-frame DSLR. On my planned trip to Rome, I will only take my iPhone - it will fit inside a zipped pocket, will take very good images to share with friends and relatives, will help me get where I am going in the city - AND - works as a phone! The fact that the iPhone automatically decides when it needs to create an HDR image - something most people have never even heard of - is one reason an iPhone in the hands of many may yield better photos than using a "real" camera without training.
Nov 5, 2022 11:59:24 #
Nov 5, 2022 12:01:46 #
jerryc41 wrote:
Apparently, they do, but I'd like to see someone else do a more controlled test.
I was surprised to see that this channel is run by brothers - twins? It seems that they take turns presenting videos. I never knew they were two different people.
I was surprised to see that this channel is run by brothers - twins? It seems that they take turns presenting videos. I never knew they were two different people.
Jerry, how about the following for "a more controlled test".
iPhone 14 Pro vs $20,000 in "PROFESSIONAL" Cameras (Sony a1 / Nikon Z9) REVIEW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T934_KcjNlw
Best Wishes
JimmyT Sends
Nov 5, 2022 12:01:53 #
kenArchi
Loc: Seal Beach, CA
My wife photos are better?
Her composition is better. And she watches for best lighting.
I snap my wife composes.
Her composition is better. And she watches for best lighting.
I snap my wife composes.
Nov 5, 2022 12:54:33 #
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