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Nov 3, 2022 09:42:22   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
The old and outdated adage!


Not really outdated, just ignored by a lot. I prefer the digital copy, but I do speed read the printed one to get going. Then it goes on the shelf, and the digital stats on my phone and available where ever I'm at and need it. Technology is great.

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Nov 3, 2022 10:30:33   #
colinc1 Loc: Goleta, California
 
Try this company. www.camera-manual.com I had the Nikon manual for my D7200 printed and it is great. Size is 6X8 spiral bound printed on both sides. The company I think is located in England, but the price includes shipping.

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Nov 3, 2022 10:36:58   #
colinc1 Loc: Goleta, California
 
See my post. Try www.camera-manual.com.

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Nov 3, 2022 14:02:53   #
Boots Brown Loc: Phoenix AZ
 
OTC Ltd has printed manuals for my last 3-4 cameras, very good job. cost: about $25 or so

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Nov 3, 2022 14:12:38   #
smf85 Loc: Freeport, IL
 
burkphoto wrote:
Not only would printing the downloaded manual be a violation of copyright law, it would be quite expensive! Making a one-off copy of ANYTHING is expensive.

Copy shops charge by the page. Printing an 800+ page manual for a typical new camera would be quite pricey — as much as $.25 per page!

I don't know anyone who would print a single copy of a 5.51”X7.78” document, with custom paper cover and binding, at a reasonable cost.

Printing manuals that size is usually done on large sheet-fed litho presses, in large quantities of multi-page signatures that are printed on both sides, in a page order that becomes consecutive when the press sheet is folded, bound with other signatures, trimmed on three sides, and then glued or sewn into a cover. Local office quick printing shops don't do that sort of thing. They print on sheets of 8.5x11 inch or 11x17 inch paper (USA standards), and use spiral or GBC binding to hold the pages together. They use the same sorts of equipment you would find in a large corporate office, typically large xerographic or electrostatic printers or copiers with digital raster image processors attached to them.

In short, you could probably buy a used iPad for less than it would cost to get a rather unwieldy and illegal copy of a PDF camera manual. PDF files are generally searchable and much easier to use than paper ones.
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It’s not a violation of copyright law. Legally, it’s the same as a downloaded PDF copy. If you can download the PDF onto a thumb drive you can print it. The copyright is attached to the camera ownership.

Other than that I agree that printing the manual isn’t a great idea.

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Nov 3, 2022 17:52:48   #
rck281 Loc: Overland Park, KS
 
I've been happy with the manuals from OTC (Old Time Cameras).
Jeff Seymour <jeff@printed-manual.com>

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Nov 3, 2022 17:54:21   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
smf85 wrote:
It’s not a violation of copyright law. Legally, it’s the same as a downloaded PDF copy. If you can download the PDF onto a thumb drive you can print it. The copyright is attached to the camera ownership.

Other than that I agree that printing the manual isn’t a great idea.


If the Walmart or Staples clerk say they won't print it, that's game over, no matter what you argue otherwise.

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Nov 3, 2022 21:17:17   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
It's now November of 2022. Go to the manufacture's website and download any documentation you desire, along with accessory software and firmware updates. All for free. The past is not coming back. Stop whining. Stop complaining. The world has changed for the better, at least in the area of physically printed camera documentation.


Sometimes people need a figurative whack on the side of the head... It is hard for curmudgeons to crawl out of their 20th Century cocoons and wake up to the new realities of technology.

At one time in my life, I had lots of bookshelves. I subscribed to two newspapers and 27 magazines. I listened to radio and watched TV. But it's 2022.

Books, magazines, newspapers, and manuals have been digitized. "radio, TV, and movies" are all online. My wife reads her novels on her Kindle and iPad. I read all kinds of Internet news and hobby sites. I listen to radio stations over the Internet, and watch YouTube, Netflix, Prime, and other video sites. We dumped the newspaper subscription and the land line when we moved from Charlotte to High Point in 2014. This month, we're finally dumping the wasteland of cable TV in favor of Internet sites and over-the-air local programming.

All my manuals are on my iPhone and Mac. I am always near one of those devices.

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Nov 3, 2022 22:14:56   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
smf85 wrote:
It’s not a violation of copyright law. Legally, it’s the same as a downloaded PDF copy. If you can download the PDF onto a thumb drive you can print it. The copyright is attached to the camera ownership.

Other than that I agree that printing the manual isn’t a great idea.


The manual is copyrighted, and a lot of printers won't print it.

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Nov 4, 2022 00:22:20   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
smf85 wrote:
It’s not a violation of copyright law. Legally, it’s the same as a downloaded PDF copy. If you can download the PDF onto a thumb drive you can print it. The copyright is attached to the camera ownership.

Other than that I agree that printing the manual isn’t a great idea.


Yes you can print it, but if somebody prints it for profit they’ve violated that copyright.

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Nov 4, 2022 02:21:28   #
Laramie Loc: Tempe
 
Laramie wrote:
Check your printer for booklet printing. On HP printers you must check Duplex printing (printing both sides) before booklet printing is shown. That is what you are looking for, booklet printing.

If you have a capable printer at home, print it yourself.

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Nov 4, 2022 06:48:25   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
Laramie wrote:
If you have a capable printer at home, print it yourself.


I believe that people like the physical copy of a owner’s manual. But I’m not sure why. My camera bag has one body, two or three lenses and a bunch of other crap. I wouldn’t put a manual inside to add the extra weight and make a thief easier to learn the Ins and outs of my camera.
Most people will sell their old gear including the manual. I think?
I like the ability to download the manual to my phone and not have the book take up space on the shelf or collect dust.

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Nov 4, 2022 21:32:44   #
sv3noKin51E
 
John Maher wrote:
Has anyone printed a copy of their camera reference manual?

I know the majority of today’s photographers prefer the electronic copy, especially in Adobe Acrobat (.pdf) format, but I would like a printed manual.

Print copies are available on eBay, but they are printed on 8.5”X11” paper – the manual format appears to be 5.51”X7.78”. In addition to the paper size, I would also like to select the paper for the cover and pages as well as the binding -- considering cost options.

I took the file to an office supply store, but they would not print it.
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In the olden days, Staples used to print them up; two years ago, they printed one for me as Nikon won't sell you one and the body is considered obsolete. The young woman behind the counter inserted my home burned CD and printed the .docx file to 2-sided letter size copy paper, I already converted the file from PDF, but she didn't care what it was or look for a copyright symbol. Now I print them up at home on the Brother multi-machine if I need one. In addition to having a copy on iPad; much easier to read on letter size paper. If you have a decent laser printer such as a Brother, good aftermarket toner is still quite economical for the large output carts, & in spite of the so-called copy paper shortage, I can print the whole manual for less than any copy shop. I didn't say that, I'm not really here:) Use the Canon printer for images and photos. Have owned many laser printers but never had an incident with a Brother unit. If you don't have a laser printer, during the fall or a black Friday or holiday sale, you can save quite a bit on one. Keep reading and shooting, cheers.

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Nov 4, 2022 21:34:00   #
MDI Mainer
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
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The real problem is that manuals about anything are written by idiots. What ever questions you look up they are hidden under some other topic. Most advanced cameras have their own configuration hiding places that can stump anybody finding them. Every digital photographer know what a camera MUST have---but just how to find the right menu or button for use is another matter. Even setting the date might be hidden from an intuitive mind.--------------


The real problem is that most camera manuals are written by the cognoscenti for the cognoscenti, not the intellectual capacity of the writer. It takes much more talent to write for the layman, which is why there is such a market for user guides by independent authors.

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Nov 5, 2022 02:01:56   #
Laramie Loc: Tempe
 
OP, what printer do you own?

If you print it yourself, the binding will be friction, or staples. Staples work well. Each page would be ~4 x 5.5 inches.

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