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Sep 27, 2022 11:51:55   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Bazbo wrote:
Got a source for that? I am pretty sure that if HRC had recanted, it would have been pretty big news.

BTW, do you know how many Presidents dod not attend the inaugural of the successor?

Here's a hint--Trump has something really important in common with one of them.

As for he peaceful transfer of power HRC did not file dozens of law suits or hatch a fake electors scheme or pressure SoS to overturn the election, did she?. Trump is the bone that stands alone.


Steven is the guy who was proclaiming that covid would kill less than 500 people.

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Sep 27, 2022 12:30:53   #
rwoodvira
 
thom w wrote:
Steven is the guy who was proclaiming that covid would kill less than 500 people.


Scary, very scary.

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Sep 27, 2022 12:37:26   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Roe v Wade was good law; it respected the right of privacy, the right of sovereignty over one's body. Which, as far as Republicans are concerned, is not a right. Guns, yes. Body, no.


Roe wade was not law.

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Sep 27, 2022 12:42:48   #
Overthehill1
 
He thinks you're crazy too.

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Sep 27, 2022 13:13:29   #
Overthehill1
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Sorry, yours is. Ask your neighbor what he thinks.


He thinks you're crazy too.

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Sep 27, 2022 14:02:58   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Texcaster wrote:
" ... we Republicans are worried about a Democrat autocracy ... "

Are you onboard with Tucker Carlson's and the GOPer brain trust's feting and bromance with *Viktor Orban?

*another ... 'strong leader'-genius man ... so beloved by minority rule enthusiasts everywhere.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/viktor-orban-american-conservatism-admiration/671205/

" ... The right’s ardor for Orbán has prompted some performative confusion in Western media. An Economist headline asked, “Why Is the American Right Obsessed With Viktor Orbán?” And an article in The Hill by Kim Lane Scheppele, a sociology professor at Princeton, was titled: “Orbán Dazzles US Conservatives—What Do They See in Him?”

Read: Freedom fights for survival in Hungary

The most common answer is that Orbán has made Hungary a laboratory for the conversion of a liberal democracy into an authoritarian state. The thinking goes like this: For an American right fascinated (in an obviously self-interested manner) by the creation and maintenance of minority rule, the formula begins with a crackdown on the press. Snub international institutions (in Orbán’s case, the European Union) and depict the Holocaust survivor George Soros as a diabolical financier. Add in an assault on the rule of law. Finish off any lingering political opposition by gerrymandering it out of existence. The end result is a white, Christian nation that can safely hold back the malignant forces of globalist tyranny. Case closed. ... "
" ... we Republicans are worried about a Demo... (show quote)


Will no alt-democracy/minority rule enthusiast here explain the GOPer's Viktor Orban *bromance?

*and Putin. Not much from the ... 'strong leader' genius-man's ... fan boys lately. 98,000 Ruskies have voted with their feet and said ... 'bugger Putin's war!'

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Sep 27, 2022 23:04:11   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
Cry me a river.

You are definitely one who swallowed the crazy pills.


Typical idiotic reply by boo pussy. Who would have guessed.

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Sep 28, 2022 06:03:14   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
Bazbo wrote:
Got a source for that? I am pretty sure that if HRC had recanted, it would have been pretty big news.

Hillary didn't "recant." She claimed that Donald Trump was an illegitimate President on numerous occasions. She said he only won because of Russian interference. It was pretty big news in right-wing media. Here's one on "The View"

https://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-labels-trump-illegitimate-170547434.html

Here on a CBS interview:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/09/30/hillary-clinton-calls-trump-illegitimate-president-sot-ip-vpx.cnn

Here on an ABC interview:

https://abcnews.go.com/theview/video/hillary-clinton-calls-donald-trump-illegitimate-president-66010832

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Sep 28, 2022 06:04:53   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
Geez! Sounds like someone has missed his medication.

Please tell me... how many "fake ballots" were found in Georgia's last election that would have the GOP go to such extremes as to "hide" the ballot box indoors?

What difference does it make? Georgia didn't suppress anyone from voting.

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Sep 28, 2022 06:12:09   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
rwoodvira wrote:
Pretty much everything you said. I'll just hit Georgia with notes from the NY Times analysis of the Georgia law:

Voters will now have less time to request absentee ballots. (The problem here is they need a photo government ID;
I don't have a problem with this, but many people of color work during the day and do not have the ability to go and get the ID during the workweek. This can be abrogated by having issuing cavities to be open longer than normal government hours).

There are strict new ID requirements for absentee ballots. (See above)

It’s now illegal for election officials to mail out absentee ballot applications to all voters. (This was during COVID - if a new plague comes along - that's a problemm.)

Drop boxes still exist … but barely. (The drop boxes were moved from areas readily accessible to voters of color - also not having ballot boxes available out side eliminates the ability of these workers depositing their ballots after they work).

Mobile voting centers (think an R.V. where you can vote) are essentially banned. (See above)

Early voting is expanded in a lot of small counties, but probably not in more populous ones. (i.e. not available in wards that are black or brown).

Offering food or water to voters waiting in line now risks misdemeanor charges. (because the poll sites are limited in black & brown areas - the lines are often long and cause the potential voters to be out waiting for hours).

If election problems arise, a common occurrence, it is now more difficult to extend voting hours.

With a mix of changes to vote-counting, high-turnout elections will probably mean a long wait for results.

Election officials can no longer accept third-party funding (a measure that nods to right-wing conspiracy theories).

With an eye toward voter fraud, the state attorney general will manage an election hotline. (now not an independent body).

The Republican-controlled legislature has more control over the State Election Board. (now not an independent body).

The secretary of state is removed as a voting member of the State Election Board.

The G.O.P.-led legislature is empowered to suspend county election officials. (now not an independent body).

Runoff elections will happen faster — and could become harder to manage.

I'm sure the above won't convince you - but that's on you, not me.
Pretty much everything you said. I'll just hit Geo... (show quote)

Wow! A thoughtful and well-reasoned reply! I'm not used to that on this site.

I take note of the details you provide and it does not support the critics assertions that Georgia is "suppressing" the vote or as Biden puts it "Jim Crow on steroids." It just sounds like ordinary security measures that every state and every country in the world puts in place in order to deter fraud. Besides, as I said before, we used to have only one single day out of the year to vote and you could not mail it in or drop it in a box on the sidewalk. We had to show up in person.

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Sep 28, 2022 06:26:44   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
thom w wrote:
Steven is the guy who was proclaiming that covid would kill less than 500 people.

Thom, I see that you haven't matured since the last time I was on this website. You automatically reply to absolutely everything I say with "Steven said Covid would kill only 500 people." I guess you think you are scoring some sort of points or something. If it makes you feel better then so be it.

You are the guy who several years ago mentioned briefly in a comment that your wife had just passed away. Alarmed, I sent you a private message of condolence despite our political disagreements on Ugly Hedgehog. It turned out later that you were only being sarcastic with your comment about the wife passing away. Yet you never had the decency to respond to my private message either in a comment or in a private message of your own to let me know that it was a misunderstanding. Or to even thank me for putting aside our differences and showing concern.

So when I see these juvenile taunts over and over about the Covid thing, I take it with a grain of salt.

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Sep 28, 2022 09:14:01   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Steven Seward wrote:
Thom, I see that you haven't matured since the last time I was on this website. You automatically reply to absolutely everything I say with "Steven said Covid would kill only 500 people." I guess you think you are scoring some sort of points or something. If it makes you feel better then so be it.

You are the guy who several years ago mentioned briefly in a comment that your wife had just passed away. Alarmed, I sent you a private message of condolence despite our political disagreements on Ugly Hedgehog. It turned out later that you were only being sarcastic with your comment about the wife passing away. Yet you never had the decency to respond to my private message either in a comment or in a private message of your own to let me know that it was a misunderstanding. Or to even thank me for putting aside our differences and showing concern.

So when I see these juvenile taunts over and over about the Covid thing, I take it with a grain of salt.
Thom, I see that you haven't matured since the las... (show quote)


I wouldn't have said that "a few years ago" as it isn't something a normal person would joke about, and she died last September. Everyone makes mistakes, myself included, but you were stuck on it would kill 500 people at the most, and it was no big deal. You absolutely couldn't be talked down from your position. I still wonder how many may have died listening to you. This isn't about some grudge against you, as I have none. I just think that somethings are unforgiveable. I'm not sure if you are to be criticized for being wrong. What I'm criticizing is you being irresponsible. As far as taking it with a grain of salt, I'm guessing no one you know died from Covid, so it's no big deal. I've seen no apology from you. You don't owe me an apology, but you sure owe one to anyone who followed your uninformed advice, though they may no longer be around to accept your apology. You may be a perfectly nice person, but you are not very responsible.
Anyone who lost a loved one to Covid, after listening to your advice, may not think my comments are juvenile, or that I am taunting you.
Your move.

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Sep 28, 2022 09:21:27   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
Steven Seward wrote:
What difference does it make? Georgia didn't suppress anyone from voting.


Get a brain!

It makes a BIGLY difference and... the title of this thread makes it relevant!

It's people like you who don't want to accept FACTS.

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Sep 28, 2022 09:24:10   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
scooter1 wrote:
Typical idiotic reply by boo pussy. Who would have guessed.


Ah... have seen you lurking around lately. When did they let you out of looney bin?

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Jun 19, 2023 13:42:22   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
though about 6 months late, you have taken thoughts, if not words from my mouth!

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