I copied this from a reply I made on FoxNews.com
I am not a fan of Trump. I AM a Republican. I think the party needs to move on. We have other well qualified individuals who could become our next nominee. Warts and all, however, I would take Trump over anything the Dems would put on the b****t. Their social agenda is a monstrosity and their economic policy goes hand in hand with their social agenda. We can live through Trump. I'm not so sure we can live through Dems in control.
SteveR wrote:
I copied this from a reply I made on FoxNews.com
I am not a fan of Trump. I AM a Republican. I think the party needs to move on. We have other well qualified individuals who could become our next nominee. Warts and all, however, I would take Trump over anything the Dems would put on the b****t. Their social agenda is a monstrosity and their economic policy goes hand in hand with their social agenda. We can live through Trump. I'm not so sure we can live through Dems in control.
So, some of what you say makes sense. However, I truly do not believe we can "live through Trump". The last time he was in office and lost, we did not have a peaceful t******r of p***r. He says he loves America but his actions show that he doesn't respect America. Doesn't like democracy and would gladly turn this country into an autocracy.
Certainly, Republicans can do better than Trump and in fact, they must do better than Trump.
In the end, running Trump can only end in disaster. Disaster for the GOP if he loses and a disaster for the USA if he wins.
Frank T wrote:
So, some of what you say makes sense. However, I truly do not believe we can "live through Trump". The last time he was in office and lost, we did not have a peaceful t******r of p***r. He says he loves America but his actions show that he doesn't respect America. Doesn't like democracy and would gladly turn this country into an autocracy.
Certainly, Republicans can do better than Trump and in fact, they must do better than Trump.
In the end, running Trump can only end in disaster. Disaster for the GOP if he loses and a disaster for the USA if he wins.
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I hope that we (Republicans) would have the sense to move on. On the other hand, we Republicans are worried about a Democrat autocracy with freedom of speech and religion severely impaired. Dems are even willing to pack the Supreme Court in order to get the rulings they want, now that the balance on the court, after many years, no longer favors them. It doesn't matter that the recent a******n ruling is due to the fact that Roe v. Wade was bad law. It's because they want what they want and could get it as long as they had more liberal justices willing to read into the Constitution.
SteveR wrote:
I hope that we (Republicans) would have the sense to move on. On the other hand, we Republicans are worried about a Democrat autocracy with freedom of speech and religion severely impaired. Dems are even willing to pack the Supreme Court in order to get the rulings they want, now that the balance on the court, after many years, no longer favors them. It doesn't matter that the recent a******n ruling is due to the fact that Roe v. Wade was bad law. It's because they want what they want and could get it as long as they had more liberal justices willing to read into the Constitution.
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Which justices on the original court are you calling liberal?
JohnFrim
Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
SteveR wrote:
Dems are even willing to pack the Supreme Court in order to get the rulings they want, now that the balance on the court, after many years, no longer favors them.
How can you say that after Trump packed the court in his favour?
While definitely unconstitutional and against the notion of every citizen gets a v**e, I would advocate that Supreme Court Judges are stripped of the right to v**e. That is the only way to ensure an apolitical SCOTUS.
SteveR wrote:
I hope that we (Republicans) would have the sense to move on. On the other hand, we Republicans are worried about a Democrat autocracy with freedom of speech and religion severely impaired. Dems are even willing to pack the Supreme Court in order to get the rulings they want, now that the balance on the court, after many years, no longer favors them. It doesn't matter that the recent a******n ruling is due to the fact that Roe v. Wade was bad law. It's because they want what they want and could get it as long as they had more liberal justices willing to read into the Constitution.
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" ... we Republicans are worried about a Democrat autocracy ... "
Are you onboard with Tucker Carlson's and the GOPer brain trust's feting and bromance with *Viktor Orban?
*another ... 'strong leader'-genius man ... so beloved by minority rule enthusiasts everywhere.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/viktor-orban-american-conservatism-admiration/671205/" ... The right’s ardor for Orbán has prompted some performative confusion in Western media. An Economist headline asked, “Why Is the American Right Obsessed With Viktor Orbán?” And an article in The Hill by Kim Lane Scheppele, a sociology professor at Princeton, was titled: “Orbán Dazzles US Conservatives—What Do They See in Him?”
Read: Freedom fights for survival in Hungary
The most common answer is that Orbán has made Hungary a laboratory for the conversion of a liberal democracy into an authoritarian state. The thinking goes like this: For an American right fascinated (in an obviously self-interested manner) by the creation and maintenance of minority rule, the formula begins with a crackdown on the press. Snub international institutions (in Orbán’s case, the European Union) and depict the Holocaust survivor George Soros as a diabolical financier. Add in an assault on the rule of law. Finish off any lingering political opposition by gerrymandering it out of existence. The end result is a white, Christian nation that can safely hold back the malignant forces of g*******t tyranny. Case closed. ... "
SteveR wrote:
I hope that we (Republicans) would have the sense to move on. On the other hand, we Republicans are worried about a Democrat autocracy with freedom of speech and religion severely impaired. Dems are even willing to pack the Supreme Court in order to get the rulings they want, now that the balance on the court, after many years, no longer favors them. It doesn't matter that the recent a******n ruling is due to the fact that Roe v. Wade was bad law. It's because they want what they want and could get it as long as they had more liberal justices willing to read into the Constitution.
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Roe v Wade was good law; it respected the right of privacy, the right of sovereignty over one's body. Which, as far as Republicans are concerned, is not a right. Guns, yes. Body, no.
jcboy3 wrote:
Roe v Wade was good law; it respected the right of privacy, the right of sovereignty over one's body. Which, as far as Republicans are concerned, is not a right. Guns, yes. Body, no.
Those things don't make it good law. Even Ginsburg admitted it was bad law but she supported the result.
SteveR wrote:
Those things don't make it good law. Even Ginsburg admitted it was bad law but she supported the result.
That is exactly what made it good.
jcboy3 wrote:
That is exactly what made it good.
Not based on current law as interpreted by the court.
SteveR wrote:
Not based on current law as interpreted by the court.
You mean the court stacked by Republicans with justices that lied about their positions on Roe in order to be confirmed so they could immediately overturn it?
Bazbo
Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
SteveR wrote:
Those things don't make it good law. Even Ginsburg admitted it was bad law but she supported the result.
Please provide a link to the Ginsburg attribution.
SteveR wrote:
I copied this from a reply I made on FoxNews.com
I am not a fan of Trump. I AM a Republican. I think the party needs to move on. We have other well qualified individuals who could become our next nominee. Warts and all, however, I would take Trump over anything the Dems would put on the b****t. Their social agenda is a monstrosity and their economic policy goes hand in hand with their social agenda. We can live through Trump. I'm not so sure we can live through Dems in control.
I agree. I can see eventually totalitarianism under Democrat rule.
SteveR wrote:
I copied this from a reply I made on FoxNews.com
I am not a fan of Trump. I AM a Republican. I think the party needs to move on. We have other well qualified individuals who could become our next nominee. Warts and all, however, I would take Trump over anything the Dems would put on the b****t. Their social agenda is a monstrosity and their economic policy goes hand in hand with their social agenda. We can live through Trump. I'm not so sure we can live through Dems in control.
It would be nice if you could expand on your claim that the democratic agenda is a monstrosity.
Right now, the republican party is desperately trying to pass laws in red states that gives them the legal right to overturn the v****g outcome of their state... if they don't like the outcome, they can change it?
That means your v**e won't count in those states.
Is that the democracy you want?
AND.... wh**ever happened to "All men are created equal"?
I don't v**e based on a single party as I don't think either party has all the answers and surely NEITHER party puts their best up for e******n.
Why one would v**e for someone like Chump is mind-boggling. Especially after what has t***spired around him to date.
Be careful what you wish for.... a dictatorship will not bode well for people who claim they want less government.
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