Data keeps rolling in...
Sep 13, 2022 14:37:56 #
More unadulterated B.S. This is the sort of rubbish that costs lives of those uninformed enough to believe it - lives needlessly wasted believing clueless politicians and fools.
Shame.
Shame.
Sep 13, 2022 14:38:47 #
Ysarex wrote:
I'm aware of the stats which don't bear on the fact that the OP falsely presented what looks like some dubious claims.
How about the stats on the damage done to the children’s education by the overreaction to the pandemic? Not to mention the devastation to the economy.
There are lots of more serious issues where we should be directing our attention.
If a claim seems to be dubious it may depend on who is listening.
Sep 13, 2022 15:45:51 #
Ysarex
Loc: St. Louis
selmslie wrote:
How about the stats on the damage done to the children’s education by the overreaction to the pandemic? Not to mention the devastation to the economy.
Not the topic of the thread -- start a new thread if you want to talk about it.
Sep 13, 2022 15:51:32 #
Sep 13, 2022 16:02:23 #
selmslie wrote:
How about the stats on the damage done to the children’s education by the overreaction to the pandemic? Not to mention the devastation to the economy.
There are lots of more serious issues where we should be directing our attention.
If a claim seems to be dubious it may depend on who is listening.
There are lots of more serious issues where we should be directing our attention.
If a claim seems to be dubious it may depend on who is listening.
This is an individual that continues to refuse to learn from his mistakes --
Sep 13, 2022 16:52:26 #
Ysarex wrote:
Not the topic of the thread -- start a new thread if you want to talk about it.
The OP said, "One more shoe drop...many many more to come unfortunately." That opens the floor to all of the other dropping shoes on both sides, past and future.
Unfortunately, it became politicized even before Biden's election. Blue states imposed Draconian mandates and red states countered with a less restrictive approach getting schools and businesses opened much sooner.
But keeping in mind that the population of California is almost 2x the population of Florida, the two totally different approaches produced almost the same result. Both states ended up in the same place as of last week, 0.75 deaths per 100,000 for the week ending 9/10:
Sep 13, 2022 17:36:38 #
Ysarex
Loc: St. Louis
selmslie wrote:
But keeping in mind that the population of California is almost 2x the population of Florida, the two totally different approaches produced almost the same result.
I see a very different result to this point. And yes, definitely a red state blue state thing going on there.
Sep 13, 2022 17:58:33 #
Ysarex wrote:
I see a very different result to this point. And yes, definitely and red state blue state thing going on there.
That's pretty much the same thing I am seeing for totals starting from the beginning.
But there is a lot more to it than politics. Geography, climate, population density and distribution, ethnic mix and even employment rates all influence the rates.
I am more interested in what is coming. Recent experience is a better predictor. Here is an interesting comparison for the US:
Based on these numbers
Sep 13, 2022 19:58:18 #
Canisdirus wrote:
One more shoe drop...many many more to come unfort... (show quote)
The bill for the Bull you mean.! What a load of&#^#.
Sep 13, 2022 20:23:20 #
Ysarex
Loc: St. Louis
selmslie wrote:
That's pretty much the same thing I am seeing for totals starting from the beginning.
So rather than ending up in the same place, Ron DeSantis and the people of Florida chose to accept a much higher total death toll from covid than did Gavin Newsom and the people of California. DeSantis and the people of Florida had the stats for what they were doing and what the result would be. They got what they chose. They're the 14th worst state out of 50 while California is the 14th best state out of 50.
Sep 13, 2022 21:34:36 #
Ysarex wrote:
So rather than ending up in the same place, Ron DeSantis and the people of Florida chose to accept a much higher total death toll from covid than did Gavin Newsom and the people of California. DeSantis and the people of Florida had the stats for what they were doing and what the result would be. They got what they chose. They're the 14th worst state out of 50 while California is the 14th best state out of 50.
You are overlooking that Florida has a much higher proportion of elderly residents.
People would rather come to Florida to die than to go to California to live. That's why they are moving here and leaving California.
Florida is growing, California is shrinking.
Sep 13, 2022 21:53:32 #
Ysarex
Loc: St. Louis
selmslie wrote:
You are overlooking that Florida has a much higher proportion of elderly residents.
That does not alone explain the difference. And it's just all the more damming -- knowing they had a higher proportion of elderly Florida could have chosen to try and protect them. They didn't.
Sep 13, 2022 23:40:21 #
Ysarex wrote:
That does not alone explain the difference. And it's just all the more damming -- knowing they had a higher proportion of elderly Florida could have chosen to try and protect them. They didn't.
DeSantis is doing a much better job than Newson whose parents just moved from California to Naples.
He’s also doing a much better job on education, public safety, immigration and economic growth.
But now you are really going off topic. If you want to get into politics, take it to the attic.
Sep 13, 2022 23:47:05 #
Ysarex
Loc: St. Louis
selmslie wrote:
DeSantis is doing a much better job than Newson whose parents just moved from California to Naples.
He’s also doing a much better job on education, public safety, immigration and economic growth.
But now you are really going off topic. If you want to get into politics, take it to the attic.
He’s also doing a much better job on education, public safety, immigration and economic growth.
But now you are really going off topic. If you want to get into politics, take it to the attic.
I was talking about covid. You're the one who made the Florida/California comparison saying they came to the same place. They didn't. Now you're the one bringing up politics.
Sep 14, 2022 05:26:34 #
Canonuser
Loc: UK and South Africa
Canisdirus wrote:
I'm sorry if my vocabulary bothers you...anything ... (show quote)
There was certainly loads of misinformation going round and most of it from people like you.
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